Pathfinder Members’ Briefing and Q&A – October 2024

Thank you to everyone who was able to join us live for this month’s Members’ Briefing and Q&A. It was wonderful to see so many of our members contributing to the conversation this month. Something that we’d love to continue as everyone has a diverse range of knowledge, experience and views plus it gives us a greater ability to find out about new topics and get to know about information that we may not have seen.

From what Bob wears under his kilt (or not as the case may be!) 😆 to the People’s Reset UK event that took place in Bath last month with presentations and workshops from both Rob and Meleni, news of a great event discussing EMFs in Surrey on Saturday 26th Oct, peptides, vitamin D, augmented NAC and much more. So please dive into the video recording (to enjoy the recording without ads please check this video out) and check out the Zoom chat for all the relevant links and accompanying conversation.

Last but not least – remember that the clocks in the UK go back 1 hour this weekend so we will be back to GMT next month!

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18:04:02 From Bob Munro to Everyone:
The only thing under the kilt is me
18:04:04 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Good evening everybody, so good to be with you all!!
18:04:16 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
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18:04:21 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
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18:04:29 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
It’s so beautiful, really scenic, not the easiest to drive to so well done for cycling!
18:06:26 From Cori12 to Everyone:
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18:07:10 From David Cordes to Everyone:
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18:10:06 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Link to find out more about the event: https://www.emfawarenessevents.co.uk/future-events/18:10:17
From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
About Devra: https://ehtrust.org/about/dr-devra-davis/
18:10:22 From Celia Conrad to Everyone:
What do you think of the Harmoni pendants for EMF etc?
18:11:07 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wireless-radiation-the-elephant-in-the-classroom-tickets-1014326486827
18:11:27 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Will this be similar to the effects of living near a 5G Mast – or is that completely separate?
18:11:28 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
Harmoni study: https://www.harmonipendant.com/pages/harmoni-hrv-study
18:12:50 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Well, placebo already is fine
18:13:11 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Dr. Erica Mallery-Blythe (Special Expert at the International Commission on Biological Effects of Electromagnetic Fields, Founder of Physicians’ Health Initiative for Radiation and Environment, Advisor for Oceania Radiofrequency Scientific Advisory Association and Honorary Member of the British Society of Ecological Medicine) will lecture on the evidence pertaining to variations in sensitivity to electromagnetic fields in humans.

In addition to the science on detrimental effects on human health, evidence will be shared regarding environmental impacts including on pollinators such as bees as well as other diverse forms of flora and fauna. The current exposure limits will be discussed and deficits in the construction of them will be explained.
18:14:27 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Also if smartphones would be forbidden in school, it would also help against mobbing
18:14:48 From Celia Conrad to Everyone:
I wanted to ask about peptides if you are starting off
18:15:01 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Great, Celia, we’ll come on that those.
18:17:37 From Celia Conrad to Everyone:
And hydrogen water
18:17:42 From Cori12 to Everyone:
I could comment on the World Health Summit in Berlin Oct 13-15, I could put some links on it
18:18:03 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Thanks Corinne, that would be good to hear about.
18:26:21 From Barbara pidgeon to Everyone:
So resonate with you David, so disappointing to be at events where people come together, talk about ‘making a difference’ and so often with limited or no healthy/ organic foods etc on offer. believe we should all do something to really be the change – thanks for sharing
18:32:05 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Link to Nature’s Marvel products: https://profound-health.com/product-category/bioregulators/natural/
18:32:30 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
It was sad Barbara, the food was a disaster, but the organising team then started bringing in fruit in the afternoons, which helped a lot. But just standard conference snacks.
18:32:51 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Article on peptides: https://www.anhinternational.org/news/miracle-molecules-that-reverse-biological-age/
18:34:53 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Is there someone who can prescribe for what you personally need, or do we just play around with it ourselves?
18:35:49 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
My sister has RA and they also said to look after her adrenals
18:36:13 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
I’m happy to help Michelle if you’d like to talk it over and then if there are additional queries I can reach out to others. The company doesn’t as yet have any practitioners in place to support but we’re working on getting them to get some in place 🙂
18:37:36 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
She was also advised to stay away from anything that boosts or up regulates the immune system as the autoimmune condition is already doing that. Do you think Thymus is more of a modulator? Just checking whether I should advise her to take Thymus?
18:37:43 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
CAN-C capsules – https://profound-health.com/product/can-c-plus-capsules/
18:38:14 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
CAN-C eye drops – https://profound-health.com/product/can-c-eye-drops/
18:38:23 From Barbara pidgeon to Everyone:
I actually have practitioner rates for these peptides through IAS, happy to arrange for anyone (contact Melissa if you would like Barbara’s contact details)
18:40:06 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Thank you Melanie, that would be helpful!
18:40:06 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “She was also advised…”

This is a bit more complex Michelle as it depends really on her general condition, any drugs she’s taking etc. Much more of an individual prescription needed. The drs always say that because the immune system is massively dysregulated, but the idea is to find out why and calm it down. They never do that, but just give drugs to suppress it, so they don’t want anything that will then raise the immune system. The entire functional/integrated approach is different once you have the immune system calmer and more balanced.
18:40:35 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “I actually have prac…”
Thanks Barbara, that’s good to know that we can refer to you.
18:40:48 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “I actually have prac…”
Can you please let Melissa have your contact details.
18:41:06 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
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18:42:53 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
https://www.truniagen.com
18:43:41 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
https://nmnbio.co.uk
18:44:59 From Barbara pidgeon to Everyone:
Replying to “I actually have prac…”
done 🙂
18:45:41 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
That last link is for an NMN product that we know is very high quality. We met Dr Elena at the Profound Health Summit in May and she’s very passionate about purity.
18:45:46 From Julie Nelstrop to Everyone:
Did any of you listen to the podcast by Zoe the other day, saying that unless we are elderly we do not need to supplement with Vit D, and too much could be dangerous?
18:46:23 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Julie is that Zoe Harcombe or Zoe the company?
18:47:01 From Julie Nelstrop to Everyone:
Zoe as in Tim Spector
18:47:10 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Ah, well that makes a lot of sense then 🙂
18:47:23 From susan salmon to Everyone:
Morley Robbins from the Root Cause Protocol says the same about Vitamin D
18:47:31 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
No, I didn’t hear it but I’m not surprised at all. They’re also trying to get people to start eating seed oils again…
18:47:55 From Bobby Teague to Everyone:
The King uses it so we should be Ok while he is around
18:48:00 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Morley Robbins from …”
Does he recommend anything else Susan?
18:48:36 From Julie Nelstrop to Everyone:
Thank you I thought as much x
18:50:31 From Alison Ledgerwood to Everyone:
I have rather gone off Tim Spector and Zoe. Some of the recent YouTube videos and podcasts seem very suspect to me
18:51:34 From susan salmon to Everyone:
Mainly Root Cause is about addressing imbalances in magnesium, copper and iron
18:51:40 From Alison Ledgerwood to Everyone:
Yes it was the seed oil video that really put me off them
18:52:35 From Cori12 to Everyone:
What kind of seed oils is it about?
18:52:52 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Vitamin D resource: https://www.grassrootshealth.net/
18:52:56 From Bob Munro to Everyone:
Julie, I totally disagree with the statement that we do not need to supplement with Vitamin D. My doctor, that I had for over 40 years, was an expert on D. He put all of his patients on a minimum of 5,000 IU’s a day. I’ve been taking 10,000 to 15,000 IU’s a day for a long time. Haven’t had a fever of flu or been sick in probably 25 years. I do take other things and D is a huge key to our health. MOST people are deficient in D and the recommended levels are too low. I’m no expert, I’ve just been brainwashed by my doctor, who I trust.
18:53:07 From Alison Ledgerwood to Everyone:
All kinds of seed oils that they seem to think are fine.
18:54:06 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Thank you Susan, that definitely makes sense. You can’t suggest that vitamin D in isolation from lots of other deficiencies will be the holy grail. But I think it’s still better to have it than not take it, especially in the northern hemisphere.
18:54:10 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
The seed oil message seems to coincide with a push to convince people that ultra-processed foods are perfectly find and don’t cause health issues.
18:54:38 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
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18:55:19 From Cori12 to Everyone:
A friend of mine took 2.500 IU Vit D over one year, she is still deficient. Now after 80.000 in one day she continues with 10.000 ….
18:55:44 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “What kind of seed oi…”
Seed oils like sunflower and safflower – very high in omega 6.
18:56:17 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Any Gentle or not so gentle thoughts on the Medical Medium books by Anthony William – especially latest Brain Saver?
18:56:25 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “A friend of mine too…”
Yes, it sometimes takes a whacking dose to bring the levels up. She probably has polymorphisms like Rob and so many others.
18:56:29 From Nicola Graves-Gregory to Everyone:
I thought flax seed is ok????
18:57:33 From Celia Conrad to Everyone:
I think I need to up my Vit D intake…
18:57:43 From Kirsten Fulton to Everyone:
In the vit D podcast he referred to elderly people in carehomes and claimed that the ones taking it did worse than those who didn’t. I didn’t look for the study talked about but suspect they may have been taken AdCal.
18:57:56 From susan salmon to Everyone:
I have to go now. Thanks so much. Lovely to see you all
18:58:07 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “I thought flax seed …”
Depending on the purity of the cold processing and if you’re balanced with omega 3, yes. There are very good home tests on the market now to test your omega 3/6 ratios. Some people just can’t make the conversion from flaxseed to omega 3, so if that’s the only oil, it’s good to test.
18:58:07 From Bobby Teague to Everyone:
How much Vit K 2?
18:58:09 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “I have to go now. T…”
Bye! Lovely to see you.
18:59:01 From David Cordes to Everyone:
From Bob Munro
18:59:04 From Alison Ledgerwood to Everyone:
Can you recommend a good supplier of Vit D with Vit K in the UK?
18:59:33 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
Grassroots Health: https://www.grassrootshealth.net/project/daction/
18:59:37 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
This is the Kiweno vitamin D test https://kiweno.com/en/p/vitamin-d-rapid-test/
19:01:13 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
https://www.anhinternational.org/campaigns/test-take-vitamin-d/
19:01:40 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
The Vitamin D campaign page has a video to show how to use the Kiweno test.
19:01:51 From Cori12 to Everyone:
I take 200 ug K2 every day
19:02:02 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
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19:02:10 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
https://media.utoronto.ca/bluebook/reinhold-vieth/
19:02:10 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Can you recommend a …”
Alison, have a look at this company:
https://greenvits.co.uk/collections/vitamin-d I use these products and have had good results with them. They do a vit D with K2 and then you can also get the straight D3 5,000 IU for when you need to increase the dose, but you don’t want to increase the dose of K2.
19:02:38 From Alison Ledgerwood to Everyone:
Replying to “Can you recommend a …”
Many thanks Meleni
19:05:06 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Replying to “Can you recommend a …”
Yes I do it also 200 ug K2 every day, and varying D3 with it, 5000 or 10.000 every day
19:05:09 From Ann to Everyone:
My Vit D level at the last test March 2024 was 188 nmol/L. I used Quicksilver scientific Liposomal D & K2. I was advised by my GP to stop taking it as I had high Ca in blood?
19:05:56 From Celia Conrad to Everyone:
What is the best form of magnesium to take? And how much?
19:06:03 From Cori12 to Everyone:
So where do you get Strontium ? The salt-solution from the lakes?
19:11:15 From Bob Munro to Everyone:
I have to leave soon. I need to take my wife to visit her mom, who’s 96, in a nursing home. Have a great day everyone.❤️❤️
19:11:35 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
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Great you could join us Bob. Thanks for your input.
19:11:38 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Thank you for being here Bob and your contributions. See you next time!
19:11:46 From Bob Munro to Everyone:
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19:13:21 From Cori12 to Everyone:
The World Health Summit in Berlin Oct. 13-15 2024 was soo disgusting.
NO WORD on vaccine injuries – not one – no doubt about modRNA….. all were grinning like in a children’s birthday party. Broad happy grins. and almost dancing together, Pfizer, Wellcome Trust, Rockefeller Foundation, Gates, health ministers from all over the world and to support the „poor“ WHO 1 billion was collected – 250 Mio by the EU commission, 360 Mio by Chancelor Scholz…!
if you can bear to look at them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twlhCImznKk
All for Health, Health for All: Signature Event for the WHO Investment Round
19:13:35 From Cori12 to Everyone:
and this is the opening session and our health minister Karl Lauterbach, in pushing for the pandemic treaty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQFdwp3vTBw
19:13:51 From Cori12 to Everyone:
for those who would listen to more of the sessions:
https://www.conference.worldhealthsummit.org/Program/WHS2024
just click on the sessions in the program but the session
GHL 02 – Pandemic Agreement Negotiations: Key Insights Gained WAS NOT OPEN of course chaired by the german health minister !!!
I am so ashamed, that these f……. Germans are pushing for that „health“ tyranny
19:14:17 From Cori12 to Everyone:
now they are combatting antibiotic resistance guess how?
https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/9789240098787
Estimating the impact of vaccines in reducing antimicrobial resistance and antibiotic use: technical report
10 October 2024
guess what kind of vaccines? yes modRNA
and they are building modRNA facilities all over the world !
19:14:50 From Cori12 to Everyone:
And they dare to do a trial with babies
https://www.helmholtz-munich.de/en/idf/studies/avant1a-study
In large-scale, long-term studies, researchers at Helmholtz Munich have identified viral infections in early childhood as a crucial environmental factor for the development of type 1 diabetes. During the COVID-19 pandemic, GPPAD researchers made another important observation: after contracting a SARS-CoV-2 infection, children with an increased risk for type 1 diabetes were more likely to develop islet autoantibodies. The AVAnT1A Study aims to further investigate this relationship.
“Participating children receive 3 vaccines: the first by the age of six months, the second three to six weeks later, and the third after another eight weeks have passed. The COVID-19 vaccine used is safe and approved for children aged six months and older.“ Belgium, Germany, UK, Poland and Sweden
19:15:03 From Julie Nelstrop to Everyone:
As an antidote listen to the astrologer Pam Gregory, she helps keep me on the right track
19:15:20 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
https://www.rsm.ac.uk/events/food-health/2024-25/fht01/
19:15:20 From Gillie Guy to Everyone:
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19:15:30 From Eleanor to Everyone:
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19:17:23 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Article about Sander van der Lynden: https://www.anhinternational.org/news/feature-dismantling-the-unsafe-vaccine-for-fake-news/
19:19:12 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
The nutrition misinformation conference is online.
19:21:25 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
https://yestolife.org.uk/
19:22:53 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Zero Spike augmented NAC: https://zerospike.org/
19:23:12 From Ann to Everyone:
To Cori12, I hope this is not an imposition Corrine but I was wanting to get Stropanthus Gratus tincture (for heart) from Germany but now you need a prescription to get it. Do you have any contacts to get this, either a Ds/Naturopath? Or maybe Rob/Melanie may have contacts?
19:23:13 From Bridget to Everyone:
Thanks as ever, I need to go now. See everyone next time.
19:23:22 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Bye Bridget x
19:24:02 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “To Cori12, I hope th…”
That’s totally new to me Ann, so sorry, no contacts here.
19:24:32 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Replying to “To Cori12, I hope th…”
I will watch out and send it to Melissa and Melani ….
19:24:48 From David Cordes to Everyone:
Replying to “Zero Spike augmented…”
This link doesn’t want to load in Brave
19:25:15 From Celia Conrad to Everyone:
How much augmented NAC do you take?
19:25:23 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “Zero Spike augmented…”
It works for me in Brave.
19:25:25 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Replying to “To Cori12, I hope th…”
Also I have a good resource for Lithium – as you need here a prescription, tooo
19:25:41 From Sandra to Everyone:
Sorry I have to go but thankyou
19:25:53 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
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Bye Sandra. See you next time.
19:25:54 From David Cordes to Everyone:
Replying to “Zero Spike augmented…”
Maybe my VPN is interferring
19:25:55 From Ann to Everyone:
Pierre Kory said the Augmented NAC helps some but not others? True/false? This was at one of the Better Way Conference a while back..
19:26:07 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “To Cori12, I hope th…”
You may be able to become a patient of one of the German Heilpraktiker (hopefully the right spelling!) practitioners. Corinne is there a directory or a way of finding one of these practitioners in Germany?
19:26:07 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
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19:26:35 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Zero Spike augmented…”
Yes working for me too.
19:26:35 From Sandra to Everyone:
Sorry I have to go now but thank you
19:26:42 From David Cordes to Everyone:
Replying to “Zero Spike augmented…”
Paused VPN, page loaded, thanks
19:27:02 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Replying to “To Cori12, I hope th…”
I will ask a Heilpraktiker friend !
19:27:21 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Pierre Kory said the…”
I think this is true of all the actives in the protocols. Everyone is individual and not all benefit everyone.
19:27:31 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “To Cori12, I hope th…”
Thanks so much!
19:27:50 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Replying to “To Cori12, I hope th…”
Ann are you in the UK or where are you?
19:28:09 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
How do we come by this product?
19:28:53 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
You can get it from here: https://www.healthy.co.uk/blog/augmented-nac-spike-protein-detox
19:29:07 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
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19:29:28 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
There’s also an interview with Fabio from ZeroSpike as well.
19:30:02 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Link to buy: https://www.healthy.co.uk/augmented-nac
19:30:14 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
Maev tribute: https://www.ifm.org/news-insights/a-tribute-to-maev-creaven/
19:31:40 From Ingrid Franzon to Everyone:
Printfinder in Latvia
19:32:08 From Ingrid Franzon to Everyone:
Say hi from me
19:33:04 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Thank you so much for another wonderful session, I can’t do the 2pm sessions anymore but will always try for the 6pm ones
19:33:31 From Caroline Boyle to Everyone:
Thanks everyone. Really interesting discussion.
19:33:35 From Jan Glen to Everyone:
Thank you