Pathfinder Members’ Briefing and Q&A – June 2023

How can it be the end of June already! This year is just whizzing by and the Members’ Briefings and Q&A’s seem to come round even quicker. Thank you for your wonderful feedback to let us know how much you get out of the sessions. All of the conversations and wonderful interactions really lift the whole ANH team and give us energy to tackle the huge task in front of us.

If you weren’t able to join us for the live session or would just like to watch and listen again you can now watch the recording.

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18:02:51 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
Apologies I am eating as I have to rush after and I don’t eat after 7 🙂
18:03:19 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
No problem Carmen. Needs must 😀
18:03:39 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
Replying to “No problem Carmen. N…”
Thank you
18:04:00 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
Hello all. Cooking dinner so will listen in!
18:04:31 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Happy Solstice!
18:05:23 From Heather CHAPMAN to Everyone:
Sadly, It wasn’t accessible for me
18:06:51 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Rory Duff was at the Better Way conference a week or so ago – he was great
18:07:42 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
Sue Adam and I met up today after I found out she lives 15 mins away. So much in common. It was great. And we were appreciating ANHI for the support over last few years.
18:08:10 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Me too! Suddenly I’m So right! (But it could be the opposite of Wrong!)
18:08:33 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
Replying to “Sue Adam and I met u…”
😍 was fantastic Hilary – I couldn’t believe when I got in the car that how fast 3 hours went!! x
18:09:25 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Sadly, It wasn’t acc…”
Oh no Heather, so sorry to hear that. We were outside so much of the time and I’m sure we could have made it work for you! Thank you for mentioning this💓
18:09:40 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Bildenberg for example!
18:10:01 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Sue Adam and I met u…”
So glad you found each other! Loved seeing you on Saturday Sue 🙂
18:10:42 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
Replying to “Sue Adam and I met u…”
You too Melanie! X
18:11:26 From Gwyneth Ashcroft to Everyone:
Meleni, please would you say again or write what Rory Duff said about the solstice.
18:11:59 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
That’s great you got to see Rory, Susanna. For anyone else interested, here’s the link to his website: https://roryduff.com
18:12:26 From Gwyneth Ashcroft to Everyone:
🙏
18:12:47 From lynda to Everyone:
Hi everyone, so lovely to be able to make it tonight even if I’m a little late. xx
18:13:07 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Gwyneth, Caroline shared with me that he said that the width of the energy lines will increase by 20% after this Solstice and that the period of harmony around each Equinox and Solstice will lengthen to 34 days. He also said that by December 2024, once Pluto is established in Aquarius, there will be a year-round harmony of energy lines across the Earth for 200 years!
18:13:36 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Hi everyone, so lovely to be able to make it tonight even if I’m a little late. xx
So nice you could join us Lynda x
18:13:43 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Hi everyone, so love…”
Welcome Linda, you can catch up the beginning on the recording. Great you made it!
18:14:15 From lynda to Everyone:
Replying to “Hi everyone, so love…”
Yes I will do, has been a while since I have been able to join you. Hope you are all well,xx
18:15:04 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
We’re doing great thanks. All the better for the lovely weather that’s making our garden sing. We must share some photos – and of Melissa’s wonderful veg garden, which is flourishing xx
18:15:38 From lynda to Everyone:
Replying to “We’re doing great th…”
would love to see photos of the veg garden.xx
18:16:43 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Yes Concerning is the pathologising of dissent. Look out for internet “Paranoid Government Disorder (PGD) is a collective mental disorder characterized by state paranoia and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of civil society.1 The actualization of hitherto unconfirmed theories exacerbates paranoia, triggering psychos”
18:17:05 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “We’re doing great th…”
I will take some as the ones I have are a little sparse! I’ll post them on the forum on the Grow Your Own Circle 😀
18:17:25 From Suzanna to Everyone:
That is just regular wiki stuff
18:18:08 From Suzanna to Everyone:
More cognitive dissonance all around.
18:20:30 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Irvin who?
18:20:34 From Sally to Everyone:
Yes, even the MP’s don’t seem to get it
18:20:56 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Rob’s article discussing bystanders and Staub’s work – https://www.anhinternational.org/news/why-heroic-bystanders-are-needed-to-extract-us-from-the-era-of-dissonance/
18:21:14 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/cics/able/about-us/our-team/ervin-staub/
18:21:18 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Vera Schwab “Never Again” worth watching if anyone hasn’t
18:22:32 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Yes but people are still not apologising for ignoring the plight of the unvaccinated.
18:22:43 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
https://www.anhinternational.org/news/why-misinformation-bans-are-misinformed-and-dangerous/
18:23:00 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
I think Matt Hancock’s WhatsApp messages and BoJo’s behaviours have shaken trust in what happened.
18:23:02 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
https://www.anhinternational.org/news/feature-how-the-nobel-prize-summit-sold-out-on-real-science/
18:23:08 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
No, it’s too hard Suzanna. Especially for people who’ve gone down that route and need to ‘know’ they’re going to be ok.
18:23:15 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
I found that people don’t want to know, they want to forget, and/or they say that I have been radicalised
18:23:20 From lynda to Everyone:
I get the sense that people are just not interested in what’s going on and just want to get on with their own lives
18:23:32 From Bobby Teague to Everyone:
Maria’s has been on GB news
18:23:49 From Bobby Teague to Everyone:
Sorry Matthias
18:24:03 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Desmet is writing a new book on solutions – about avoiding the rationalist and ,materialist reductionism in favour of the intuitive (I think)
18:24:28 From Suzanna to Everyone:
I found that people don’t want to know, they want to forget, and/or they say that I have been radicalised
I agree
18:24:53 From Philippa Worsley to Everyone:
Yes, I agree too.
18:25:18 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
ANH Blueprint for sustainable health – https://www.anhinternational.org/campaigns/the-regen-health-blueprint-project/
18:25:40 From Philippa Worsley to Everyone:
Yes
18:25:45 From Gwyneth Ashcroft to Everyone:
Not really
18:25:45 From lynda to Everyone:
no
18:25:47 From Suzanna to Everyone:
no
18:25:48 From Barbara p to Everyone:
yes
18:25:48 From Gillie Guy to Everyone:
Not familiar…
18:25:50 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
no
18:25:51 From Karin Elgar to Everyone:
no
18:25:51 From susan salmon to Everyone:
no
18:25:54 From Bridget Harper to Everyone:
yes
18:25:58 From Isabelalchemy to Everyone:
Yes
18:26:00 From Suzannah to Everyone:
partially
18:26:05 From Arno Nording to Everyone:
have heard the term several times
18:26:28 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
It’s very difficult for people who’ve bought in so deeply and fully to the narrative to then have to consider that they were lied to, scammed effectively. It challenges their entire world view and many will just not be able to go there. Others are going there slowly, but I feel that some will never be able to take it on board. Even though we all have people in our lives who we can see are not moving, there are a lot that are, so that’s the positive. Slowly, slowly…
18:27:31 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Found out this week some makes of greaseproof paper use it as well!
18:27:39 From Isabelalchemy to Everyone:
Re a new health system; what do you know about the PHA? It is launched in Portugal where we live.
18:27:46 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
Replying to “It’s very difficult …”
Yes so what I am trying to do now is to be gentle, kind and understanding so that the gentleness can break barriers in a different way
18:28:22 From Julie to Everyone:
Are PFAS in non-stick pans?
18:29:01 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “Are PFAS in non-stic…”
Yes, teflon Julie.
18:29:16 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “I found that people …”
It’s their safety mechanism to project it all onto your ‘dysfunction’ – the opposite is just too hard. But many, in time, will see you were right. Like us, we all just stand peacefully in our truth and let the maelstrom rage around us 🙂
18:29:50 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
Replying to “I found that people …”
True 🙂
18:29:57 From Linda Julian to Everyone:
Replying to “It’s very difficult …”
❤️
18:29:59 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “It’s very difficult …”
@Carmen Cimmino That’s perfect. Love is always the answer.
18:32:14 From Bridget Harper to Everyone:
I will need to go in a few minutes but this is so interesting. Thank you as ever.
18:32:43 From Suzanna to Everyone:
RFK his talking about this.
18:32:48 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Bye Bridget, lovely you could join us for a bit xx
18:33:44 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
Does organic make any difference?
18:33:54 From Julie to Everyone:
How do we detox from PFAS???
18:34:32 From Heather CHAPMAN to Everyone:
is meat also contaminated?
18:35:16 From Suzanna to Everyone:
What illnesses would be most linked with PFAS contamination?
18:35:30 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
Non organic seeds are even coated with something. 😩
18:35:40 From Janie to Everyone:
Is there a way to test your water supply?
18:35:58 From Julie to Everyone:
Maybe try to collect our own seeds from the veg we grow?
18:36:04 From Gwyneth Ashcroft to Everyone:
Does Bill Gates Apeel contain PFAs?
18:36:06 From Janie to Everyone:
Is there a way to clear them from the body?
18:36:08 From Maria Higgs to Everyone:
would having a water filter help?
18:36:18 From Suzanna to Everyone:
I heard that organic heritage seeds are to ruled against in EU law – is that right? Seeds illegal?
18:39:32 From Heather CHAPMAN to Everyone:
Apparently If you want to remove PFAS from your tap drinking water, activated carbon filters can be extremely effective.
18:40:14 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
I worry for my daughters at Uni, one is going to Oslo for a year as she studies global health and the other two also use non stick pans for “practical” reasons, I don’t have them in the house but I can’t convince them. Is there any thing that I can suggest to them other than the normal antioxidants and/or Nac to support detoxification?
18:40:19 From Heather CHAPMAN to Everyone:
Is PFAS banned in UK?
Certain PFAS are banned as a result of restrictions on the manufacture, sale and use of products containing persistent organic pollutants (POPs).
18:40:26 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Would vaccinated blood be more prone to health concerns with regard to PFAS I wonder?
18:40:27 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Yes, and changed regularly. Reverse osmosis systems too are effective.
18:41:19 From Sally to Everyone:
I use ceramic (Green pans) for cooking and hopefully they are chemical free.
18:42:02 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
We use Berghoff pans which are meant to be PFOA free.
18:42:43 From Suzanna to Everyone:
PFAS sound like collective suicide
18:44:14 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
Interesting that both serrapeptase and NAC are now a target…
18:44:56 From Heather CHAPMAN to Everyone:
hmmm PFAS Ingredients found in Hand Sanitizers
18:45:22 From Suzanna to Everyone:
PFAS can also explain all cause mortality that can cover for vaccination harm?
18:45:27 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Another reason to steer well clear from hand sanitisers 🙂
18:45:48 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
Yes Julie, I’m trying to gather my own and grow perennials
18:46:31 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Could Chlorine Dioxide be interesting for breaking the bond?
18:47:49 From Suzanna to Everyone:
RFK is onto this
18:48:56 From Suzanna to Everyone:
That came up n the better way conference
18:49:13 From Suzanna to Everyone:
I’ll check into and let you know
18:49:23 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
There’s something going through EU regarding essential oils and other natural “chemicals”. I’ll find the link.
18:49:41 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Carmen, could you purchase your daughters safer non-stick pans as well as get them onto some liver/detox support?
18:50:16 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
Replying to “Carmen, could you pu…”
I did, I bought green pans and then they bought non stick… it’s a battle
18:50:27 From Suzanna to Everyone:
I will find out about it
18:51:00 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Carmen, could you pu…”
I get it 🙂 You can only do what you can do!
18:51:15 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
Replying to “Carmen, could you pu…”
But I will put them back on NAC as I feel that that’s one thing I can do
18:51:19 From Suzanna to Everyone:
And H2O2?
18:51:32 From Julie to Everyone:
Hi Carmen, I feel for you. I’d got rid of all non-sitck pans but my husband complained so much about his scrambled eggs sticking that my daughter bought him one for Fathers Day last weekend!
18:52:18 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
Replying to “Hi Carmen, I feel fo…”
I know… everyone has a go at me in the house as everything sticks but there we have it..
18:52:57 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
https://www.perfumerflavorist.com/flavor/regulatory-research/news/22862266/efeo-european-federation-of-essential-oils-efeo-president-manolo-donaire-shares-wffc-speech-recap-clp-revisions
18:53:24 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
https://www.perfumerflavorist.com/fragrance/regulatory-research/article/22863293/alain-frix-discusses-threat-to-essential-oils-industry-due-to-eu-green-deal
18:53:39 From Heather CHAPMAN to Everyone:
phew le Creuset here
18:54:50 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “phew le Creuset here”
🌟
18:55:02 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
• Prof Michael Levitt [https://www.statnews.com/2021/05/24/stanford-professor-and-nobel-laureate-critics-say-he-was-dangerously-misleading-on-covid/], Nobel Prize for Chemistry, 2013
• Svetlana Alexievich [https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/04/17/alexievichnobel-literature-laureate-alexievich-backs-5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-a70030] Nobel Prize for Literature, 2015
18:55:09 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “phew le Creuset here”
They’re so heavy though!
18:56:29 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
Replying to “Found out this week …”
Yes I’ve gone back to using the “expensive” one!
18:57:23 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “Found out this week …”
Me too! 😀👍
18:57:26 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Just looking at the issue of regulatory attack on heirloom seeds. Appears to be related to EU Seed Law proposed in 2013, which seems to have stalled over the years. https://european-seed.com/2021/08/a-new-seed-law-for-europe-or-then-again-not/
18:57:54 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Yes, Melissa – thankfully some are using silicon so you need to check before you buy.
18:59:41 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “https://www.perfumer…”
Thanks Sue.
19:00:31 From Suzanna to Everyone:
We need new platforms!
19:00:58 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
Small artisan distillers are seriously concerned that if changes are made to regulations, they will effectively be put out of business.
19:01:24 From Suzanna to Everyone:
The Truckers Demonstration is an example of a huge event that no one knew about
19:01:45 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Hijack the MSM
19:02:35 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Twitter might be able to bridge?
19:03:04 From Philippa Worsley to Everyone:
Contact Elon Musk!
19:03:14 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Twitter is still shadow banning! ANH included…
19:03:48 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Twitter is still shadow banning! ANH included…
Really? Even now?
19:03:56 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Yep!
19:04:10 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
I’m never sure what game Musk is playing and which side of the fence he’s on. Neuralink is scary!
19:05:06 From Philippa Worsley to Everyone:
Replying to “I’m never sure what …”
I agree but I think he is becoming aware of the negative side
19:05:06 From Heather CHAPMAN to Everyone:
Twitter banned ‘what is a woman’ after agreement to publish and then relented, 140 m views later!
19:07:00 From Heather CHAPMAN to Everyone:
NHS app should show the batch number
19:07:30 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
My cousin’s wife died of a turbo cancer last week, she was in her early 50s and she was fit and healthy and triple jabbed. Her two daughters and husband are devastated
19:08:39 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
I should add that in Italy being unvaccinated is not something you can talk about easily without being assaulted verbally
19:10:30 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Biontech is being sued this week in Europe I think
19:10:44 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Biontech owns Pfizer (Think!)
19:10:58 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Yes, multiple lawsuits apparently https://www.gbnews.com/health/covid-vaccine-germany-biontech-lawsuits-latest-news
19:11:18 From Heather CHAPMAN to Everyone:
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/biontech-faces-first-german-lawsuit-over-alleged-covid-vaccine-side-effects-2023-06-11/
19:11:36 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Yes, multiple lawsuits apparently https://www.gbnews.com/health/covid-vaccine-germany-biontech-lawsuits-latest-news
Hopefully it could set a precedent
19:11:43 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “Biontech owns Pfizer…”
The two companies are collaborating but are separately owned.
19:12:10 From Philippa Worsley to Everyone:
Any information coming out about how to detoxify from graphene oxide?
19:12:25 From Suzanna to Everyone:
My cousin’s wife died of a turbo cancer last week, she was in her early 50s and she was fit and healthy and triple jabbed. Her two daughters and husband are devastated
So sorry to hear that.
19:13:12 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
Replying to “My cousin’s wife die…”
Thank you Suzanna
19:13:45 From Suzanna to Everyone:
It seems that lawyers can sue for calcium deficiency as a result of PPI medicines like Nexium in the US
19:14:02 From Maria Higgs to Everyone:
Great meeting. I have to go, thank you for all your hard work
19:14:44 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Bye Maria!
19:14:46 From Suzanna to Everyone:
That’s great advice Bob Marshall channelled by Mel!
19:16:03 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Yes, and digestive bitters! Thanks Kate.
19:18:11 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
I looked at the blurb for a local networking group today and it says: if we believe in intersectional feminism. If you’re a Trans Exclusionary Feminist, Wild isn’t for you.
19:18:26 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Bob Marshall was an absolute fount of knowledge and we had the good fortune to work with him for about 4 years and benefit from his wisdom 🙂
19:18:56 From Domini’s iPhone 13 to Everyone:
Thanks Rob, I love veg and the incessant push for keto, low carb and high meat drives me insane!
19:19:00 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “I looked at the blur…”
😆 I’m not even sure I know what that means!
19:19:48 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
I eat a tonne of vegetables and some animal protein and some plant protein, I find that works for me
19:19:56 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
Replying to “I looked at the blur…”
@Meleni Aldridge I had to think about it! But I think I’ve got a pretty good idea!
19:20:18 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
We love it too Domini and it’s absolutely possible to still be Keto-adapted and eat veg. That’s why we wrote Reset Eating because the move to carnivore diets is really concerning on many levels!
19:21:28 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
Even natural supplements and herbs will coat the gut…
19:21:59 From Carmen Cimmino to Everyone:
I apologise but I need to go, so wonderful to see you all, you keep me sane!
19:22:50 From Heather CHAPMAN to Everyone:
Replying to “I looked at the blur…”
I find the gender identity ideology annoying as organisations label disabled toilets are gender neutral therefore inviting the transgender to use the facilities. Along with placing the baby change and parents with toddlers.
26% of people identify as having a disability, that’s a lot using the one toilet provided.
Not to mention the women’s rights being eroded and the sports inequality with transwomen competing.
19:23:14 From Julie to Everyone:
Thank you for that, it makes it all a bit clearer x
19:23:24 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Love the ObsElites!
19:24:03 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Unfortunately it will be battle to push them into obsolencence
19:24:35 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Norman Fenton said he would not have spoken out if he’d be younger.
19:25:11 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Heather’s interview with Mel from last year – https://www.anhinternational.org/news/august-acceleration-wheelchair-wellness-against-all-odds/
19:28:12 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Inclusivity that excludes human dignity. Hmmm
19:29:57 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “I looked at the blur…”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERF
19:30:25 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Wow, what a lovely group we have and super informative session as always, thanks so much all!!!
19:30:32 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Thank you so much dear ANH guiding stars! Wonderful as always. I look forward to the next one.
19:30:47 From Heather CHAPMAN to Everyone:
Replying to “I looked at the blur…”
I’m TERF and Proud! 🤣
19:30:57 From Julie to Everyone:
Thank you indeed, it is the highlight of the month xx
19:31:05 From Janie to Everyone:
Thank you so much for another informative and supportive session!
19:31:22 From Bobby Teague to Everyone:
Thanks you so much v interesting
19:31:25 From Gillie Guy to Everyone:
Very informative and interesting session, thanks!
19:31:26 From Sally to Everyone:
So many thanks as always
19:31:45 From Jan Glen to Everyone:
Great session. Many thanks
19:31:49 From lynda to Everyone:
lovely to see you all, thanks so so much as always.. Love being a part of the ANH. So informative and supportive. Take care. Love to you all.xx
19:31:51 From Gwyneth Ashcroft to Everyone:
Thank you SO much Rob, Meleni and Melissa and all of you. Its so good to be part of this group. 🙏
19:31:52 From susan salmon to Everyone:
Thanks so much!
19:32:06 From Sue Adlam to Everyone:
Thank you so much – lovely to see everyone! x
19:32:14 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
🥰
19:32:18 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
❤️❤️
19:32:37 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
https://anh-usa.org/
19:32:53 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
https://anheurope.org/
19:33:00 From Caroline Boyle to Everyone:
Thank you all very much. Always good to tune in.
19:33:06 From Isabelalchemy to Everyone:
Many thanks lovely people ❤️. . Another info packed meeting
19:33:34 From DONNA Lowe to Everyone:
Thanks everyone. Lovely community we have here.
19:33:49 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Hoping Human Beans are not Has Beens!
19:34:10 From Jamie Sermon to Everyone:
So grateful for everything you do at ANH!
19:34:23 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
It’s only the obselites that are has beens… 😄
19:34:31 From Sally to Everyone:
And we’re not alone!
19:35:04 From maurice mogard to Everyone:
Thanks for a valuable session
19:35:04 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Natural health is the past and the future for balance!
19:35:07 From Geoff Dack to Everyone:
Many thanks, another great meeting.