Pathfinder Members’ Briefing and Q&A – June 2022

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• Briefing and Q&A session
• Zoom chat

We were so pleased to see everyone on Thursday for June’s Briefing and Q&A. It was a packed session again with lots of interaction amongst everyone who joined us. Special thanks go to Mandy for sharing her easy fight/flight/freeze breaker correction she uses in her kinesiology practice. We’ve made a separate video of Mandy’s technique so you can keep it handy for when you need to stop and pause.

We were really excited to share news of our new course, plus special discounts for our Pathfinder members, – Behaviour & Communication Magic – taking place on Saturday 24th September in Guildford, Surrey, UK with our guest speaker David Charalambous who joins Rob and Meleni. We’re so looking forward to welcoming and meeting people in-person as well as online.

>>> Find out all you need to know about this exciting opportunity Behaviour & Communication Magic on 24th September (in-person and livestream) and book your ticket.

Pathfinder Discounts for Behaviour & Communication Magic

In-Person Tickets: FREETHINKER15
Virtual Tickets: FREETHINKERv15

Briefing and Q&A session

>>> Read more about our exciting new course Behaviour & Communication Magic on 24th September (in-person and livestream) and book your ticket.

Pathfinder Discounts for Behaviour & Communication Magic

In-Person Tickets: FREETHINKER15
Virtual Tickets: FREETHINKERv15

Zoom chat

00:12:50 lynda: Hi everyone lovely to be here with you all.xx
00:13:35 Nigel Utton: not in this incarnation anyway
00:13:46 Bridget Harper: sadly I will need to leave at 6.25 but will listen to the recording. So lovely to hear these Q & A sessions.
00:13:55 Melissa Smith: So great to see everyone.
00:14:45 Melissa Smith: It’s lovely you can join us even for a short time Bridget 😀
00:17:37 Meleni Aldridge: Thank you all for joining us – Bridget, the recording will be up early next week for you to catch up x
00:17:57 Meleni Aldridge: Do let me know in the chat if you have any questions you’d like to ask today.
00:20:35 Hilary M: I’m very concerned about the autumn rollout of the booster vaccines being given with other vaccines eg flu and GPs getting financial incentives to take it on. Any thoughts on this??
00:23:02 Bridget Harper: I’m wondering about the emphasis on monkey pox and more recently polio and the likelihood of introducing more vaccines, generating more fear and the harm this could do.
00:26:19 Hilary M: And Sajid Javid is pleased that Moderna is building a new premises in the UK ready for the next pandemic😟!!
00:28:16 Meleni Aldridge: https://www.anhinternational.org/events/behaviour-communication-magic/
00:29:07 lynda: Will it be possible to watch a recording of the workshop as I won’t be available that day?
00:31:26 Erica: Stats 3 June (to 26 May)
65% of people aged 12 1st dose
60% 2nd dose
41% 3rd dose
(UK stats: 93%, 87%,69%)
00:33:48 Melissa Smith: Hi Lynda, you can book a livestream ticket, which will also allow you to watch the recordings of the day.
00:34:11 lynda: Thanks Melissa that’s great.
00:34:22 Patricia Swann: what date in September
00:34:34 Melissa Smith: Sat 24th
00:34:41 Patricia Swann: Thank you.
00:39:36 Meleni Aldridge: This is an excellent 4 min video from Dr Claire Craig on how Pfizer twisted the data to get the childhood vaccines through:
00:39:37 Meleni Aldridge: https://rumble.com/v18s66i-bombshell-dr.-clare-craig-exposes-how-pfizer-twisted-their-clinical-trial-d.html
00:44:58 Julie: Currently am in day 2 of covid – hence the dressing gown! So far a very feverish day yesterday with no energy, just slept most of the day. Today feeling a bit better. Unvaxed. One thing I’ve noticed is the effect it has had on my eye sight, everything is hard to read.
00:45:37 Susanna: Thank you for responding to my question!
00:45:51 Nigel Utton: How do you know it is ‘covid’? Julie? The tests will show positive for many different proteins including flu
00:46:43 Julie: Only that I was at an event and lots of people have gone down with “something”! But good point.
00:47:11 Nigel Utton: Question: I am an osteopath = many of my older patients are presenting with oedema particularly on their left leg… they have all been vaccinated. Are others seeing the same?
00:47:12 Corinne: Could these “clots“ be the things suspected in Small fiber neuropathy, a complement-protein-debris? That sticks to endothelial cells near the nerves?
00:47:33 Meleni Aldridge: Sorry to hear your down with it Julie, but so glad you could join us. First off, are you taking a protocol of immune modulating supplements? Secondly, it’s interesting that people report very different effects from the virus. I think we are seeing so many different virus variants now that the effects are very diverse.
00:48:02 Rob Verkerk PhD: https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/covid-shots-causing-monstrous-clots/article_13ad0062-e680-11ec-9aca-3bc4b8cb2804.html
00:48:14 Susanna: What is a fibrin polymer?
00:49:17 Julie: Thank you Melanie, and yes I am on all the right things. I just been down the garden and picked a bit of everything green I could find for a salad bowl tea! Followed by a few fresh raspberries.
00:49:59 Meleni Aldridge: 🙂 Great! With lots of rest for your mitochondria I’m sure you’ll be back to normal soon with a whole slew of new antibodies!
00:50:00 Corinne: Thank you Rob
00:50:34 Mandy Jenkins: What about blood clots from covid, rather than the vaccine? Is anyone studying that? comparing them?
00:52:45 Nigel Utton: Is graphene oxide implicated in these protein strands?
00:53:30 Melissa Smith: https://www.anhinternational.org/news/what-s-in-the-jabs-they-re-so-desperate-to-give-us/
00:53:34 Patricia Swann: Whats the title of that book please?
00:53:36 Rian van Arendonk: What’s the title of the book?
00:54:21 Melissa Smith: Buy the book here: https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/the-psychology-of-totalitarianism/
00:54:59 Melissa Smith: Watch the Highwire interview with Mattias Desmet: https://thehighwire.com/videos/mattias-desmet-the-psychology-of-totalitarianism/
00:57:47 Ann Charles: My friend is vaxxed and had a D-dimer test over 2400 (v..high) but they couldn’t tell her why or what to do. Dr Charles Hoff Canada started doing those tests supposed to be microscopic blood clots? Would Ozone +UV light treatment help clear them do you think?
00:58:46 Corinne: There is a vaccine, that has been in trial (in Vietnam) , a self-replicating mRNA: https://www.science.org/content/article/mrna-vaccine-twist-it-copies-itself-protects-against-covid-19
01:00:51 Julie: Is it too late to join the control group. And how do we go about this?
01:01:26 Melissa Smith: Hi Julie, no you can still join. You can get all the details here: https://vaxcontrolgroup.com/
01:05:18 Moira Newiss: Do you have a feel on whether restrictions will be brought in again this Autumn/Winter? Really hoping not but have a bad feeling about it!
01:05:30 Susanna: If fraud is proven, is indemnity nullified?
01:07:07 Ann Charles: I had flu/C.V. not tested but really sick for 3 days took IVM etc. Asked my Dr for a test for antibodies recently but it came back negative as per SARS-CoV-2 antibodies – (JDu1224) – Normal – No action / Not detected
No SARS-CoV-2 antibody detected.
01:07:18 Nigel Utton: I was on a zoom call with Germans on Wednesday – the Government are warning mandatory mask mandates are due to come back in the Autumn
01:08:57 Nigel Utton: toilet rolls did it!
01:13:03 Susanna: The control also pose the greatest threat to the narrativ
01:13:52 Julie: We have set up Wellness Days locally in Lincs. Initially it was just for those unvaed but now it is for anyone. Lots of us are natural therapists of some kind so we just enjoy sharing and helping each other. Hopefully groups like this are forming throughout the world….
01:14:03 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, Susanna, absolutely right. That’s why we need to bring the 40% with us, but not by bombarding them with facts, just by gentle conversations and the odd observation here and there.
01:16:13 wanda briggs: Are there any known dangers in the Covid home test kits? Are repeated swabs potentially carcinogenic (as I’ve heard)
01:16:46 Alison’s iPad: Julie this is just wonderful…I would love to do something like this here in East Sussex
01:17:06 Nigel Utton: Early on I had a patient from Africa who developed a cancer at the base of her ethmoid bone – just where she was being constantly swabbed… needs further research!
01:17:15 Mandy Jenkins: I’d be happy to contribute the quick (1+ minutes) and easy fight/flight/freeze breaker correction I use in my kinesiology practice if this group would like to learn it? It puts you back into rational mode for clear thinking and learning ease.
01:17:36 Lauren McElroy: We want to save our children
01:17:56 Susanna: Have people heard of the People’s Health Alliance? A network of health hubs etc. Looks very good
01:18:09 Rob Verkerk PhD: Hi Wanda – they are potentiall carcinogenic – but so is a lot of food and most of the air we breathe in the industriaised world. Our sense is that regular covid testing is unnecessary – and we should not only respond to symptomatic disease – and work hard to use prevention strategies to optimise resilience – not just against SARS-CoV-2 – but to all pathogens. You can call it healthy living!
01:18:12 Corinne: @Mandy: would be wonderful…
01:18:53 Rob Verkerk PhD: Thanks Mandy – perhaps get in touch with Melissa?
01:18:56 lynda: Many I would be interested to know about the fight/flight/freeze breaker correction please
01:19:02 Moira Newiss: Sorry I need to go. I came up against a discriminatory policy last week – my kids won a weekend trip with an environmental conservation charity – just before we were about to go they said it was mandatory to test and they wanted to see the results – my kids both refused. I said it was discriminatory as they have never had to test on a mandatory basis at school or in other youth organisations – they were very surprised and a bit upset but went it back to their H&S committee who reviewed it and changed the requirement to guidance only! I was very pleased!
01:19:07 Nigel Utton: This has been an amazing meeting so glad I found you all. I’m COO for the World Freedom Alliance in my spare time – would be great to have you as partners – I have to dash now to another call. Look forward to seeing you all next time. And I will be in touch over building a relationship.
01:19:09 Melissa Smith: melissa@anhinternational.org
01:19:23 Melissa Smith: Drop me a line Nigel.
01:19:34 Nigel Utton: coo@worldfreedomalliance.org if anyone wants to contact me.
01:19:37 Rob Verkerk PhD: Great to meet you Nigel!
01:19:42 Julie: Alison, my email is Julie.nelstrop@hotmail.com
01:19:44 Susanna: In Europe they want to extend the use of vaccine passports and digital id from 1 July for another year
01:20:09 Nicola Graves-Gregory: I’m up for E Sussex group, Nicola
01:20:11 Mandy Jenkins: Can you give me one moment and I’ll do my best
01:21:01 Naphia Reggiani: Yes pls to East Sussex group Naphia
01:21:01 Suzannah UK: Pam Gregory has interviewed somebody who has set up an organisation called the People’s Health Alliance which is designed to gather alternative health practitioners and allopathic ones to make us independent of NHS etc.
01:21:26 Susanna: I’d love to be copied into an E Sussex group as when I am in Uk that’s where I am!
01:21:38 Dian Shepperson: George Bernard Shaw
2% of people think
3% of people think they think
95% of people would rather die than think
01:22:00 Erica: Greece, the economy needing visitors, has scrapped covid test / vaccine passport.
01:22:18 Alison’s iPad: I’m at Campbell.jones@talktalk.net and yes I would love to be working in a health hub too! Ally x
01:26:05 Felix Hughes: Calming!
01:28:13 Felix Hughes: can you show hands again pls
01:28:33 Felix Hughes: in step 2
01:30:15 susan salmon: Thank you, Mandy
01:30:19 Diana Borovic-Allen: Super. Yes please
01:30:29 Felix Hughes: thank you
01:30:35 Corinne: Thank you Mandy!
01:30:51 Teresa Allen: Mandy bless you for sharing 🙏
01:30:54 Gillie Guy: Thank you – very helpful!
01:31:07 Simon: Yes thank you so much Mandy
01:31:12 Marisca: Thank you
01:32:12 Rob Verkerk PhD: Huge thank you Mandy – resilience is the key!
01:32:43 Hilary Martin: I had a garden party recently for all the people I know who chose not to get jabbed just as a way of acknowledging and celebrating our choice and how hard it was for some.
01:32:57 Eric Marshall: Thank you Mandy. Thanks too to Meleni and Rob. we have to go now
01:33:55 Simon: Are these groups just for health professionals?
01:34:06 DONNA Lowe: I’m moving down to north Devon this summer and would love to join a group with like minded people down there please 🙏 donnamlowe13@icloud.com
01:34:48 Jo Ridgers: I’m in the north part of Kennington South London, nr Waterloo.
josridgers@yahoo.co.uk
01:36:15 Dian Shepperson: Sir Christopher Choke MP UK
Senator Johnson in Wisconsin
Both are collating vaccine damage cases
01:36:18 Teresa Allen: NHS just paid out for 1 death today – £120k – small price for a life
01:36:37 Marisca: Hi Jo, I’m not too far from you in Wandsworth
01:36:57 Teresa Allen: Death due to V
01:37:24 Ann Charles: Thanks Mandy felt like Psych-K? – Robert M. Williams and the other guy, forget his name, funny guy who talks really fast, who did a lot on epigenetics? THanks for reminding me of this.
01:38:29 Dian Shepperson: Trial data is locked down now for 75 years
01:42:09 Simon: But the problem is that you can’t travel
01:42:41 Susanna: @Dian Pfizer had to release its data ‘prematurely”
01:42:54 Corinne: They are pushing medications weight loss pills or injections again (a GLP1-agonist). (I lost my mother due to side effects) . I suppose they want to take advantage of having gained weight in the Corona-times. Horrible.
01:43:16 Dian Shepperson: Thank you for all the work you do
01:43:33 Melissa Smith: Thanks so much Dian
01:43:40 Susanna: Brave browser seems to be the most privacy centred
01:43:44 Hilary Martin: I would appreciate your recommendations for good sources of info.
01:43:48 Suzy Robson: My beautiful sister died of the jabs.
01:44:07 wanda briggs: Proton might be one in the near future
01:44:33 morag: huge lot of interesting and useful information, as always, thank you so much Rob, Meleni and Melissa
01:44:33 Susanna: @Suzy I’m so sorry
01:44:54 Rob Verkerk PhD: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/entry-requirements
01:44:55 Teresa Allen: Thank for everything
01:45:05 Meleni Aldridge: I’m so so sorry Suzy. Sending you love.
01:45:09 Julie: You do still need a test for France but having come back last week, no one looked at it.
01:45:13 Jo Ridgers: America?
01:45:14 Julie Hodgson: Not Europe, but South Africa has scrapped all restrictions/mandates today!
01:45:16 Simon: UK government web site has all the info
01:45:20 Susanna: For Spain now you need nothing! Finally
01:45:20 Julie King: You can do a lateral flow to go to France
01:45:20 wanda briggs: Thank you all for another interesting Q & A
01:45:40 helen: We live in Switzerland and recently did a trip to the Uk and travelled through France. Just had to do an antigen test.
01:45:51 Alison’s iPad: Look at local website or airline sites too. For Germany the airline gave the best info – easyJet
01:46:07 Melissa Smith: Dr Sarah Myhill: https://www.drmyhill.co.uk/
01:46:22 Corinne: I should go to US, how is that if not vexed?
01:46:33 Corinne: Not vaxxed….
01:47:21 Melissa Smith: www.promic.info
01:47:29 Marisca: I’m glad you asked too. I thought I’d never be able to return to Ghana
01:48:12 Julie King: My husband has just been to France and no one checked his antigen test result when he arrived
01:48:28 Alison’s iPad: Fit to Fly test is what I did to get in….doctor verifies the result
01:48:38 Felix Hughes: would you consider PCR and Antigens safe these days? Is there still the problem with ethylene oxide / steriliser?
01:49:16 Rob Verkerk PhD: Occasional exposure Felix is probably OK. Regular use could be an issue.
01:49:46 Ann Charles: Felix I wonder that too that the PCR and the LFTest are contaminated?
01:50:22 Susanna: Thank you Rob, Mel, Melissa once again for this wonderful touchdown meeting and for bringing support, information, passion and compassion to this community! very much appreciated.
01:50:23 Mandy Jenkins: Thank you ANH for standing up for what is true, right and wholesome. You are amazing and we owe you big time!
01:50:43 Caroline Boyle: Great information. Thanks so much
01:50:53 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Thank you, Rob, Meleni, Melissa, everyone. Bless you. I’ll email re local E Sussex group
01:51:24 susan salmon: Thanks everyone for an amazing meeting!
01:51:40 Meleni Aldridge: Thank you all so much for joining us tonight. 🥰
01:52:01 Felix Hughes: Thank you
01:52:11 Marisca: So grateful for the information and empowerment you offer,🙏🏾
01:52:23 Corinne: Thank you again for the meeting today and for all your wonderful work – so good to feel you so close and connected!!
01:52:29 Ann Charles: Thank you ANH team beautiful souls and all members present X
01:53:03 Geoff Dack: Excellent, as usual. Many thanks to all.
01:53:14 Naphia Reggiani: Many thanks for all your vision, energy and hard work – feeling very grateful
01:53:26 Rowena: Huge thanks for offering such wonderful info and connection to all. Special thanks to ANH for this opportunity – much appreciated. We can do it with positivity and hope.
01:53:32 Jamie Sermon: Thanks so much, everyone, for being here, So much respect for all the work that is being done by Rob and Meleni and Melissa at anh. Thank you!!
01:53:34 Liz Bruce-Gardyne: Regenerating health, looking forward to learning more. Many thanks as ever.
01:53:49 Ann Charles: I wonder why my name doesn’t come up when I post a msg? Says Me to everyone?
01:53:53 Eleanor: Thank you everyone
01:53:53 sandra: Thankyou x