Pathfinder Members’ Briefing and Q&A – January 2024

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Happy New Year! Welcome to the first Pathfinder members’ meeting of 2024.

Meleni started the meeting by asking if everyone is happy with the format of the Members’ Briefings and Q&As or if there are any changes they would like to see. As you’ll see from the chat we had some great feedback from those on the call telling us how much they love the meetings. We’d love to hear thoughts from other members who weren’t with us live, about whether the current format works or any suggestions you may have for how we engage with our Pathfinder members. Meleni was clear that this isn’t about removing the meetings, just about ensuring you, our members, are getting what you want from the current format. You can email the team on info@anhinternational.org to share any ideas or thoughts you may have.

Rob continued the meeting by talking about the release of a brand new film, Planet Soil, which focuses on healthy soil, made by his brother, Mark Verkerk. Due to technical reasons he was unable to share the trailer, but Mike has incorporated it into the recording for everyone to watch. If you’d like to watch the trailer separately please click here.

Given the current media furore, Rob spoke about Disease X and we discussed ongoing efforts to discredit leading doctors and scientists including Dr Didier Raoult for his work around hydroxychloroquine and Dr Ryan Cole for sharing his concerns around covid and covid shots.

As always the conversation was wide-ranging, driven by a lively and vibrant chat – well worth a read below. Please dive into the recording below to listen again or watch if you weren’t able to join us on the day.

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18:06:20 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
You can email the team on info@anhinternational.org
18:06:32 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
This has been a life line for me and I am always gutted when I can’t make it. I am happy if people want to change it as long as something still takes place. Thank you all so much for what you do!
18:09:02 From lynda to Everyone:
I love the Q&A’s they are so informative and even though I can’t always make the live ones I always enjoy catching up with the recordings. I agree with Michelle it is a life line having your support. You are so appreciated and everything at you do.x
18:11:57 From Wanda Briggs to Everyone:
The Soil Will Save Us by Kristin Ohlson is a wonderful book about no dig farming etc
18:11:59 From Bobby Teague to Everyone:
Scientific and medical network have lecture tonight by Marina O’Connell Dartington farmer on just this subject
18:12:26 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “The Soil Will Save U…”
Thanks for the recommendation Wanda.
18:13:44 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “Scientific and medic…”
🙏 Bobby
18:14:05 From Arno Nording to Everyone:
How are organic farmers doing financially? This is often one way organic Farmers get marginalized through subsidies to big ag.
18:14:24 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Thanks Bobby! They do offer recordings so it’s possible to go back and catch up. A great initiative with excellent talks.
18:14:52 From Suzanna to Everyone:
On the subject of water – anyone know about John Ellis Water?
18:16:12 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Don’t worry Michelle, we’re not going anywhere, just checking in that we’re offering everyone the best ANH experience. 🥰
18:16:30 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Replying to “Don’t worry Michelle…”
😍
18:16:56 From Wanda Briggs to Everyone:
Surely the sun also has a part to play in creating healthy food?
18:18:24 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Yes, absolutely Wanda – and our health too! If you haven’t read this article I wrote in 2018, you’ll find the information fascinating and bring you a new dimension on the how the sun is imperative for everything on this planet!
https://www.anhinternational.org/2018/07/18/ez-water-the-water-that-makes-us/
18:18:28 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Dutch growers own the hydroponically grown veg being grown in Thanet
18:19:11 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Surely the sun also has a part to play in creating healthy food?
Yes, and why Bill Gates’ idea to dim it is not so bright!!
18:20:50 From Suzannah to Everyone:
The Earth would die, if the sun stopped kissing her”
18:21:04 From Suzannah to Everyone:
Rumi
18:21:07 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Yes, and we’d not be much cop either!
18:21:33 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Rumi
❤️
18:21:45 From Jacky to Everyone:
I noticed some Duchy Estate veg in the supermarket at the weekend had ‘grown in Chile’ and other farflung places on on the package. There was me thinking it was grown organically in Cornwall🤪
18:22:18 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Vandana Shiva is a Soil Soul!
18:22:57 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Where can we see the film?
18:24:48 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Vandana Shiva is an Earth Goddess
Vandana for president of the world!
18:26:43 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
fab
18:26:57 From Jacky to Everyone:
👍
18:28:30 From Caroline carosher9@gmail.com to Everyone:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26229700/
18:28:32 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
https://vimeo.com/810982161?share=copy
18:28:36 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
I know Jacky. I’ve seen that too. I wonder if it’s still Waitrose who administers that side of it as they were in partnership. I do know there are lots of suppliers to the Duchy chain and it’s not all Duchy farm!
18:28:46 From Rowena to Everyone:
was there very low sound playing?
18:28:52 From Caroline carosher9@gmail.com to Everyone:
Apparently you need a different system/setup to be able to play music.
18:29:16 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Thanks Caroline – I just wish we could find out what that set up is as I’ve tried a number of them !
18:30:08 From Caroline carosher9@gmail.com to Everyone:
Replying to “Thanks Caroline – I …”
Would it be worth emailing Zoom to enquire?
18:30:22 From Diana Grose to Everyone:
The film is being shown in Amsterdam tonight and I did not know so have missed it, what a pity
18:32:06 From Suzanna to Everyone:
John Campbell did a piece on disease X https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noNa3WUGpC8
18:33:49 From Bobby Teague to Everyone:
Re Duchy Organics. The King sold the business to Waitrose and the profits go to the Princes Fund. He had to sell it because he couldn’t own a business when he was going to be King. He would rather it had been otherwise. He is passionate about organic ally grown food.
18:34:56 From joanne to Everyone:
Where can I find out more about what Rob was just saying please? Around vaccinations being the incorrect approach during a pandemic…
18:35:45 From Alison Ledgerwood to Everyone:
Yes it would be helpful to have a simple explanation for those of us who have no scientific knowledge.
18:35:49 From Jacky to Everyone:
Replying to “Re Duchy Organics. T…”
Ah I see makes sense.
18:37:28 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “Where can I find out…”
This a recent article from Geert Vanden Bossche on the subject – https://www.anhinternational.org/news/guest-article-ah-if-only-they-understood-the-difference-between-herd-immunity-and-herd-immune-pressure/.
You can also check out our Covid zone for more articles https://www.anhinternational.org/campaigns/anh-covid-zone/
18:37:50 From joanne to Everyone:
Replying to “Where can I find out…”
Many thanks Melissa
18:37:51 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Tucker Carlson interviews Bret Weinstein about WHO pandemic treaty and Amendments to IHR – excellent if you haven’t seen it https://tuckercarlson.com/the-tucker-carlson-encounter-bret-weinstein/
18:38:04 From Alison Ledgerwood to Everyone:
Replying to “Where can I find out…”
Thank you. I have read quite a bit but I find they assume too much knowledge
18:38:20 From Alison Ledgerwood to Everyone:
Replying to “Where can I find out…”
Me just being a bit dense but I do struggle to understand all of this
18:38:32 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
Replying to “Where can I find out…”
I love Geert V B however for those of us with no scientific background he is incredibly hard to understand.
18:39:43 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “Where can I find out…”
He is very detailed. This is one of Rob’s articles, which might help – https://www.anhinternational.org/news/feature-the-narrative-around-the-safety-of-covid-shots-is-cracking/
18:40:04 From Alison Ledgerwood to Everyone:
Replying to “Where can I find out…”
Thanks Melissa
18:40:11 From Irene MacIntyre to Everyone:
Very concerned re Geerts most recent discussions, being Covid not over
18:40:12 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
what about Dr Ana Milhalcea PhD is finding in the
18:40:21 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “Where can I find out…”
Or this one – https://www.anhinternational.org/news/why-it-s-fast-becoming-a-pandemic-of-the-boosted/
18:40:22 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
What would be our options if Marburg became more of an issue?
18:40:30 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
Replying to “Where can I find out…”
What ANHI perhaps could do is present what he says in a very simple way. I remember Del Bigtree right at the beginning of the jab programme using a football pitch to explain what jabs do to the immune system. That kind of imagery and metaphor really help to understand complex ideas.
18:41:36 From Wanda Briggs to Everyone:
Why do those “in power” not think that they too might be affected and rather try to prevent such an event as Pandemic X?
18:42:21 From Marianne Rist to Everyone:
Prof Raoult had better survival rates at his hospital than other hospitals in France.
18:43:01 From Jacky to Everyone:
Replying to “Why do those “in pow…”
💰💰💰
18:44:28 From Eric Marshall to Everyone:
Thanks for the input, we have to go
18:45:41 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
But there are some small wins going on especially through the courts eg ICAN’s forcing USA to start releasing the text messages in the V Safe App.
18:47:09 From Suzanna to Everyone:
I find Dr. Philip Macmillan is elucidating and here is a chat of his with Geert Van den Bosschen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZxiNxYLpc&t=57s
18:48:10 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
Replying to “I find Dr. Philip Ma…”
Thanks Suzanna
18:48:43 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Replying to “I find Dr. Philip Ma…”
Thanks Suzanna
🙏
18:49:39 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
I would like to acknowledge MP Andrew Bridgen for his stocking speech yesterday in the Excess Deaths debate in UK Parliament.
18:50:06 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
we seem to be too scared to identify as anything now!
18:50:07 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
That should have said ‘stonking’ speech!
18:50:10 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
Indeed Hilary – he is doing a fantastic job getting this information out!
18:50:20 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
I missed out some info. Dr Ana Mihalcea, USA, Dr David Nixon-Australia and any others with their Darkfield microscopes have seen Nano tech in many substances- ie vaccines, supermarket meat, dental anasthetics, water and many more. So they are saying that – has been proven there is no mRNA but DNA in the shops and they are saying its all Nano tech and to get rid of it can be done but ….
18:50:22 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Replying to “I would like to ackn…”
I would like to acknowledge MP Andrew Bridgen for his stocking speech yesterday in the Excess Deaths debate in UK Parliament.
Me too! UK is the only place in the world that has allowed the matter to get this far
18:50:45 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “I would like to ackn…”
Rob’s latest article on excess deaths https://www.anhinternational.org/news/feature-are-humans-really-dying-more-quickly-than-expected/
18:50:51 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
Replying to “Indeed Hilary – he i…”
Yes I recommend everyone watches the speech.
18:51:30 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Yes we should OPT OUT of the WHO, Un etc etc nor else we will be in for a very bad time….
18:52:24 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Suzanna and Hilary – what was the attendance like in the parliament for Andrew Bridgen’s speech?
18:53:03 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Much better than previously, though they cut the 3 hours to 90 mins and gave them a smaller space
18:53:38 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “Indeed Hilary – he i…”
This is transcript from the debate – https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2024-01-16/debates/152B485D-812D-43CC-9D25-C2B651564810/ExcessDeathTrends
18:53:55 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Link to the video debate for those wishing to check it out https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/664b688c-cf82-4280-8d3d-8a2169c78d11
18:54:16 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
Replying to “Suzanna and Hilary -…”
Better than any other debate. Encouraging. Gallery was full too including Dr Mulhotra. I haven’t watched the whole debate – only Andrew’s speech that John Campbell showed.
18:55:27 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Suzanna and Hilary -…”
Ok, thanks. I know that the gallery would have been full, but I just wondered how many MPs attended.
18:56:37 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Replying to “Suzanna and Hilary -…”
There wasn’t a big walkout as we’ve seen before- there were more MPs asking questions
18:57:06 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
It would be very interesting when you are in the US – IF you could get an appointment with Dr Ana Mihalcea – she is based in Yelm, Washington – https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com and her website is https://ammedicalmd.com. I would be great to know a person with direct experience on how your blood is looking. So much Rouleau formation in blood from vax’d and unvaxed through shedding.
18:58:01 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Meleni / Rob – have either of you tested your blood via darkfield?
19:00:46 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Thanks Ann, I have listened to her video on the dark field microscopy and the frequency work she’s been doing with Richard. Sadly, we’re no where near her this trip. I’ve done live blood analysis in the past, but not in recent years. I do really believe though that we have the power to raise our frequencies above the dark density of whatever may be around. I don’t have any fear about the technologies they’ve been playing with and I know we can elevate above them. But I do find it interesting seeing the information coming in from many sources. Like a jigsaw, we’ll put it all together to make a full picture in the not too distant future.
19:01:08 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Suzanna and Hilary -…”
Great – that’s the best news!
19:01:22 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
It would be good to focus on solution to get the (spike) or nanotech out of the system – No?
19:03:08 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Replying to “It would be good to …”
It would be good to focus on solution to get the (spike) or nanotech out of the system – No?
There are quite a few protocols from World Council for Health and FLCCC and Doc Mccoullough (Natinkinase/Curcumin/Bromelain).
19:05:23 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Yes, absolutely Ann, for people who are experiencing health difficulties and there are now lots of practitioners using many different protocols to do this. It’s very individual as it affects people in different ways, but I think if someone is not having any side effects, then not to be fearful but to continue to support health optimally. Just my opinion though!
19:06:02 From Suzanna to Everyone:
PHEIC = FAKE…?
19:06:08 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
thank you! is there ever a case in favour of vaccination – if not during a pandemic then pre or post??
19:06:36 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Thank you Suzanna but It seems that those products do not get rid of the Nanotech and there are many independent researchers working on this as they say its not the spike but the nanotech that’s causing problems.
19:07:31 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
So I guess it depends what camp you are relating to…..and what the antidote is..
19:08:16 From Irene MacIntyre to Everyone:
Vaccine. It was redefined in 2019. Before pandemic
19:08:37 From Suzanna to Everyone:
thank you! is there ever a case in favour of vaccination – if not during a pandemic then pre or post??
Geert would say yes. But Del Bigtree might beg to differ….Can you trust the vaccine manufacturer is a question to ask and what liability do they have etc?
19:08:57 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Its not a vaccine its a gene therapy product… Im not sure |I trust Dr Malone
19:10:05 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
I believe confidence in all vaccines is at an all time low at the moment globally and the issues with the covid vaccines are spilling over into all of them.
19:10:16 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
thank you!!!!!
19:10:36 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Vaccine. It was redefined in 2019. Before pandemic
Yes! Along with anti-vax!
19:11:46 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
That’s the key Rob use any immune enhancing substance you can to heal and build it up
19:12:45 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “I believe confidence…”
Senior members of the FDA have published on the reduction in confidence in vaccines – https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2813910
19:14:18 From Suzanna to Everyone:
I saw something about the graphene oxide in bodies responding to movement sensors and affecting the heart which explained so many deaths from heart attacks in banks and cash machines etc But I don’t know about that and try not to delve in case its true!
19:14:38 From Irene MacIntyre to Everyone:
Possibility of different batches containing different things??Grand experiment right enough.
19:14:53 From Suzannah to Everyone:
I agree, Meleni
19:15:10 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
I don’t think Dr Ryan Cole is on the ball. Tuning forks such as from Eileen McKusick may help as we are electric
19:16:00 From Suzanna to Everyone:
One positive thought is that never have so many people been so “awake!
19:16:31 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
More every day Suzanna 😀
19:16:40 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Thanks Meleni, I needed to hear this and reinforce what I am learning as a Health Coach, it is easy to get swept up in fear
19:16:48 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
I’m not in fear but I look to all avenues for information.
19:17:13 From Jacky to Everyone:
nocebo is as powerful as placebo
19:18:20 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Yes, so do I Ann. It’s the best thing to do, but I just wanted to talk to that as we’re so aware of how much fear is on the feeds – feeds in our space. So not about our conversation, but about the amount of fear that’s out there in general.
19:18:46 From Irene MacIntyre to Everyone:
Fantastic analogy Rob. Car crash. Brilliant
19:20:43 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Rob spoke to Geert Vanden Bossche about his book last year – https://www.anhinternational.org/news/speaking-naturally-immune-escape-with-dr-geert-vanden-bossche/
19:21:35 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
This is why Q&A is so powerful – I feel so inspired again and back in charge of what happens to me!
19:21:40 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Favourite immune system boosters? Mine is Echinecea
19:21:58 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
I’m so pleased Michelle!! Health coaches rock and we need more of them!
19:22:27 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Replying to “I’m so pleased Miche…”
😘
19:23:55 From Bobby Teague to Everyone:
German farmers protesting now
19:24:27 From Joanne Loves Nutrition to Everyone:
Still cannot hear
19:25:16 From Joanne Loves Nutrition to Everyone:
We are hearing it through your own mic on the computer only
19:25:35 From Joanne Loves Nutrition to Everyone:
just the mic on the computer
19:26:17 From Joanne Loves Nutrition to Everyone:
just the same
19:26:38 From morag to Everyone:
amazing pictures anyway
19:27:10 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
if its any consolation we had the same issue with our quiz nights during covid and couldn’t figure it out 🤣
19:28:34 From morag to Everyone:
your brother is as amazing as you Rob
19:29:23 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Yes Tony! That has happened to me too!
19:29:44 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
definitely, helping us all!
19:29:48 From Suzanna to Everyone:
But I’d forgotten how to get there!
19:30:43 From Irene MacIntyre to Everyone:
Will watch it. Thank you for sharing. Looks tremendous
19:30:51 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Thank you to you amazing ANH team for your constant inspiration. SOIL is SOUL and so is SEED ! Look forward to seeing the film. Fare ye well to all !🙏⭐❤️
19:31:10 From Wanda Briggs to Everyone:
Thank you again and again for your time and sharing
19:31:15 From helen to Everyone:
Thanks so much all 🙏💕
19:31:18 From Joanne Loves Nutrition to Everyone:
Thanks all – totes amazeballs as always
19:31:20 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
well thank you all so much!!! LOVE this group!
19:31:21 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
THank you all Love you all
19:31:23 From morag to Everyone:
so many useful insights, as always, thank you
19:31:30 From Janie to Everyone:
Thank you so much for all your health-full input!!!
19:31:30 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
🥰❤️
19:31:41 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
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19:31:42 From Jacky to Everyone:
thank so much : )
19:31:42 From Paraschiva Florescu to Everyone:
Thank you all – was nice to see you again
19:31:44 From lynda to Everyone:
Thanks so much to you all, another great Q&A. Much love.xxx
19:31:53 From Jane Baldwin to Everyone:
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19:31:54 From maurice mogard to Everyone:
Thanks for all info
19:31:54 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
Replying to “I’m so pleased Miche…”
Yes
19:31:55 From Eleanor to Everyone:
thank you very much
19:32:01 From Catherine to Everyone:
Thank you. Q &A always good