Pathfinder Members’ Briefing and Q&A – April 2024

The year is rushing by as we say goodbye to April and look forward to May, with the hope of more clement weather in Northern climes where we’ve had cold wet start to Spring.

Once more, we covered a lot of ground, with a lively Zoom chat (below) to accompany proceedings. Rob tackled the thorny subject of ‘do viruses exist’ in response to Dr Milliken’s question – spoiler, yes they do. Rob was interviewed by Will Dove on this very subject this week so watch out for, what will be, a fascinating, insightful and informative interview.

The question what do we think about methylene blue? sparked a lively debate with some great tips on how to take it, if you use it, and not get blue everything. We discussed our new FreeSpeech4Health campaign aiming to gather 1 million signatures in order to get You Tube to change it’s medical misinformation policy and stop censoring natural health voices, as well as homocysteine and the ongoing programme of covid jabs, plus more.

Thank you to everyone who joined us live. If you couldn’t join us live and are catching up via the replay we hope you enjoy the conversation as much we did. 

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14:03:41 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Are those new glasses Meleni, either way they are lovely, suit you!
14:04:06 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Well spotted Michelle! Yes!!
Thank you x
14:07:04 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
FreeSpeech4Health campaign page – http://freespeech4health.org
14:07:25 From Jacky to Everyone:
is the campaign global or just usa?
14:07:35 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
It’s worldwide Jacky.
14:07:52 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
YouTube is global so this is global too as it affects everyone.
14:08:10 From Jacky to Everyone:
Great thanks (i signed it but wasn’t sure whether to share in a uk network) so will share it now
14:08:23 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Thanks, yes, please share it.
14:08:42 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Last month someone asked about Homocysteine. If you want info put a note in the chat and I’ll give a link and also I can email my notes I made from a webinar I attended. It is very important to measure Hcy and get it down. If below approx. 7.7mcmol/L it’s OK.
14:09:38 From Jacky to Everyone:
Replying to “Last month someone a…”
Patrick Holford has a lot of info about homocysteine on his Food for the Brain foundation
14:10:08 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Great, thanks Ann. Yes Hcy is an important independent predictor of heart disease, but can also be high if someone has methylation SNPs. Measurement is important and 5MTHF will help to bring it down naturally.
14:10:29 From Wanda to Everyone:
I’m not hiding but my camera doesn’t want to work with Zoom (maybe my VPN…) Anyway I want to thank you all SO much for standing up for truth. I have circulated the petition and many of my circle say they have signed.
14:10:46 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
You’re here which is lovely Wanda!
14:11:14 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
Replying to “Last month someone a…”
I recently did his DrFt tests which includes homocysteine. Really helpful to see my levels.
14:11:22 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Yes it was his webinar I attended. https://www.patrickholford.com/advice/how-to-lower-your-homocysteine-level/.
14:14:09 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
Good to see you Dr Milliken – we have yet to address your very interesting question on the virus….
14:15:43 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
I tried to get a HCY test from GP but NO. You can do the test on Patricks website. Paper – Homocysteine – (HCY) Disease Bio Marker to Disease Prevention – = Prof AD Smith and J Refsum – J Internal Medicine Review 2021 – shows all the different diseases connected to high HCY- over 100, including Stoke, Diabetic Neuropathy, MS, AD, Parkinsons, Eye health, and any mental Health issue etc
14:16:19 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Hello beloved ANH- Team and beloved those in the Chat
14:16:48 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Could you place a link for all of Robs radio shows please. Thx
14:17:08 From Bridget to Everyone:
How would I access the DNA test you are talking about as my homocysteine level is high
14:17:26 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
What was Meleni talking about Moses??? I missed it.
14:17:55 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Best healing to you, Melanie!!!
14:17:55 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Sorry to hear that and well done for being here!!
14:17:57 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Hi Ann, Meleni was discussing Gnosis methyl folate. Here’s a link https://quatrefolic.com/
14:18:18 From Suzanna to Everyone:
I wish you a speedy recovery Mel!💗
14:18:27 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
If anyone would like to join the Intention Circle, please let me know and I’ll add you to the mailing list x
14:18:47 From Wanda to Everyone:
S sorry to hear about your back. Rest and take care of your self
14:19:29 From Julie to Everyone:
Replying to “What was Meleni tal…”
You are so right, the pressure is certainly on – any illness has to reach rock bottom before we start to recover . Will be sending you lots of love for a speedy recovery xx
and keep listening to Pam Gregory xx
14:20:44 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
On the link I posted earlier to P. Holford he gives a list of what B vits to take , plus Omega 3’s – mainly DHA and zinc and TMG uses a different pathway.
14:21:32 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
The recording of Rob’s conversation with Sonia Poulton will be available at this link: https://tntradio.live/shows/the-sonia-poulton-show/
14:22:21 From Julie to Everyone:
A friend is on antibiotics and it lists on the instructions all the things you should not take at the same time – vit C, D, etc and herbs such as echinacea. Will try and get a copy of it to send to you xx
14:23:10 From Helen Doyle to Everyone:
The depth of evil really hit me this week
14:23:26 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Melanie I agree wholeheartedly. And my heart goes out to all to heal in whatever way is needed.
14:24:03 From Suzanna to Everyone:
The depth of evil really hit me this week
😢
14:25:06 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “A friend is on antib…”
Please do Julie as I’m sure that much of it just isn’t so!
14:26:12 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
14:26:15 From Julie to Everyone:
I try and avoid NHS as such as possible but have just turned 60 and have just this morning received an invite for bowel cancer screening. It is in my family but I’m just not sure about having things inserted that might upset my gut bacteria. Any thoughts? xx
14:27:11 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “How would I access t…”
Bridget, can you email me mel@anhinternational.org and I’ll come back to you on this.
14:27:27 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Hello beloved ANH- T…”
Hi Corinne, so lovely to see you!
14:27:44 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Iron Will Report – IronWillReport.com
14:28:05 From Hannah Charman – Natural Menopause Specialist to Everyone:
The initial test is usually just done on a stool sample, so completely non invasive but potentially lifesaving. I have known people have much better treatment outcomes for bowel cancer because it was found early through screening.
14:28:10 From Cori12 to Everyone:
WHO-Petition – please share
https://who-petition.org/
in en, fr, sp it & all languages available
I know Klaus Buchner, the initiator since 10 years. He is amazing, former Member of the EU-Parliament, and busy in constantly educating about 5G, WHO threats … the petition is on facebook aswell….
counting of signatures is updated not daily, so just don’t care if your signature is not added immediately
14:28:16 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
https://www.anhinternational.org/news/anh-feature-does-the-virus-exist-a-critical-need-for-resolution/
14:28:43 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
If anyone takes-life-biotics. Need to take probiotics with it and Dr Ruscio FM in US has looked into it and said it doesn’t stop the biotics from working. https://drruscio.com/taking-probiotics-with-antibiotics/
14:28:55 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “I try and avoid NHS …”
Julie is the bowel screening that you’ve been invited to not just a stool test? I thought they started with a stool test and then called you in for something invasive if it was needed?
14:29:15 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “The initial test is …”
Thanks Hannah, that’s what I thought.
14:29:28 From Jacky to Everyone:
love this image posted by Weston A Price (who are being shadow banned in insta)
14:30:01 From Julie to Everyone:
Replying to “I try and avoid NHS …”
Good point, I have not yet read the details, thank you.
14:30:14 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Brilliant Jacky, so true. In this day and age you can’t actually believe they did that – but they did!
14:32:02 From Wanda to Everyone:
And didn’t they refuse your offer to debate? So this is a negative sign to me
14:37:02 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
GISAID website: https://gisaid.org/
14:37:45 From Wanda to Everyone:
Is flu considered a virus? Or what is it otherwise?
14:38:09 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Dr Ardis the venom proponent. I can’t believe he was here at a clinic in Battersea (where I live) giving a lecture last week and I never knew. I only discovered he was here as he mentioned it on a podcast…
14:38:47 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7239045/
14:39:15 From Eloise Cole-Newton to Everyone:
We have a physically disabled child, usual practice is to give muscle relaxants, Because we as parents were behaving in a ‘non’ ‘usual’ way and refusing as have alternatives, we were threatened twice with child protection proceedings last year even though there was absolutley no evidence of harm to our child in a forced medical and he has actually proven better than most of his peers, in health and development. We live in fear every day due to this control..
14:39:42 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Q: Rob, what do you think about Geert v.d. Bossche, who thinks some mutants will be deadly? I personally do not think so at all (as microbiologist…), as it should have happened already.
14:39:56 From Jacky to Everyone:
what about the testimony to the eu from the patent guy about it being developed s a biological weapon?
14:39:59 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
I don’t think it was just In silico. I think it was completely engineered to harm as many as possible. Sorry for being negative. Maybe that is In Silico??
14:40:58 From Moira Newiss to Everyone:
I’m interested to hear Rob’s response to Cori12s question as I keep seeing Gert predicting dire things and it not happening!
14:42:52 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “We have a physically…
So sorry Eloise, I was just speaking about these heinous acts against parents who want to make their own decisions over their child’s health to a friend today. Just another twisting of legislation set to protect vulnerable children to benefit the system.
14:43:01 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Replying to “Is flu considered a …”
Oh yes it is a virus
14:43:32 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Is flu considered a …”
We would say yes Wanda, but those that deny that viruses exist would put it down to something else.
14:44:31 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Replying to “We have a physically…”
There’s an ongoing case of a mother who’s been taken to court because she refuses to allow her son (mental age of an 18 month old) to be covid vaccinated. Apart from anything else he’s had covid twice, but they’re continuing to pursue her.
14:47:50 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Things are happening slowly to right the injection. It’ll be interesting to see if anything comes of the court case. Dr Aseem Malholtra – UK Consultant Cardiologist – giving testimony evidence Helsinki Distract Court, Finland in April 2024. re covid vax https://makismd.substack.com/p/video-draseem-malhotra-testifies?r=164jp
14:49:25 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Everybody (animal, human, soil, plants) harbour potential pathogens
14:49:50 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Sadly I had the swabs… Was aware not to take the shot but didn’t take it further- agh
14:50:16 From Cori12 to Everyone:
It all depends on the milieu, the stress levels etc.
14:51:35 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Dr Ardis the venom p…”
He must have kept it very quiet as it wasn’t widely publicised.
14:52:02 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Planet Soil trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUhDi21eJrc
14:52:34 From Eloise Cole-Newton to Meleni Aldridge(Direct Message):
It would be great if I could be put in touch with anyone else you know whose had similar problems as we have investigative journalists gathering information.
14:52:56 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
A random question, sort of, if we are looking to replace our fake grass with real grass – what soil would be best to try get as the foundation? (in Kent UK)
14:55:57 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Caring and loving thoughts to our inhabitants ….. getting out of stress
14:57:00 From Hannah Charman – Natural Menopause Specialist to Everyone:
Sorry I have to go but it’s been lovely spending time with you all again. See you soon.
14:57:08 From Wanda to Everyone:
Absolutely fascinating, Rob. Thanks so much for such illuminating information.
14:58:12 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Melani/Rob have you heard of the cancer trial using IVM and Lactoferrin? Started off as a prostate trial and now involves other cancers. It’s on the viber platform but I still have figured out how to get to the group. I saw a recording with Dr Shankara Chetty from Sth Africa and a few other Drs. Don’t have the link now..
15:01:29 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “Melanie/Rob have you…”
Thanks Ann, I knew it was happening but I’ve not been monitoring it either. Makes total sense to me. Lactoferrin is the most potent non-inflammatory immune molecule our bodies produce that’s got us through evolution, but you need to be active in a fasted state in order to release it. Will go looking for the trial and see what’s happening.
15:02:06 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Rob’s recent article about filter bubbles: https://www.anhinternational.org/news/na%C3%AFve-realism-and-filter-bubbles-that-threaten-humanity/
15:02:50 From allan pollock to Everyone:
I visited a care home this week and found that the elderly residents were all receiving Covid vaccines…even if you believe that the vaccine programme is a plus … why are we vaccinating as we enter the summer (hopefully) and a period of low risk of respiratory infections…bizarre to my mind
15:03:45 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
It’s the Spring booster programme Allan. There’s was something on the radio this morning with someone sharing they’d signed up to be part of the delivery team protecting over 75s!
15:03:58 From Ingrid Franzon to Everyone:
I have had viral issues since I had ME 1985 – from which I had recovered 10 years later – and yet had occasional issues. A couple of years ago I had pain in my legs, muscles etc etc – could hardly walk. I got Covid October 2023 and when I ‘woke’ up I was totally pain free. And it hasn’t returned. So when large numbers experienced negative symptoms after Covid it left me symptom free… and no I’m not vaccinated.
15:03:59 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
I wonder if their families have signed off and are aware?
15:04:50 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “I have had viral iss…”
So interesting Ingrid, but clearly your immune system kicked in in a way it hadn’t before. Have the effects remained?
15:05:26 From Ingrid Franzon to Everyone:
Replying to “I have had viral iss…”
Yes! Doing great!
15:05:55 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “I have had viral iss…”
Like the proper use of a vaccine 🙂
15:06:03 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
One of Geert’s current cohort’s mother ended up in hospital with pneumonia after being given another vaccine by her care home. Not sure if he’s UK or US based.
15:06:15 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Oh yes the selection pressure is so crucial – (= stress). -> gives multiresistent germs, aggressive ones as EHEC, etc .
15:09:22 From Ingrid Franzon to Everyone:
Replying to “I have had viral iss…”
@Ingrid Franzon I think that having a high fever possibly ‘burnt’ off the viruses I was not coping with.
15:10:21 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “I have had viral iss…”
It’s a wonderful result, which also demonstrates that leaving our bodies healing mechanisms to do their work, is also a good way to heal! I know how long you’ve had those Sx, so happy to hear this!!
15:10:32 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Melani, Do you know anything about hydrazine sulphate for addressing malnutrition and wasting? I’ve lost 9 kilos in around 9 months. I’m only 38Kilos and should be 49K (Maybe cancer but not focussing on it).
15:11:13 From Jacky to Everyone:
great thanks, that makes sense
15:13:13 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
I don’t Ann, but we’ll definitely look into it to see what might be there to support you. I guess you’re already ensuring a healthy diet full of healthy fats and looking at gut health? If breaking down protein is proving a challenge, then taking amino acids can be the answer to ensure your body has sufficient building blocks.
Anyone else here know about hydrazine sulphate? I must say I’m usually helping people lose weight, not put it on!
15:13:14 From Helen Doyle to Everyone:
You are absolutely right Rob
15:13:59 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
I saw great interview with Matteus Desmet on Dr Drew recently. Recommend it. His updated thinking and is just about to release another book.
15:14:26 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Replying to “I saw great intervie…”
Excellent, so glad he’s continuing.
15:14:56 From Jacky to Everyone:
Yes I’ve listed to the Sharyl Attkisson interviews where she talks about this when big pharma started advertising end of last century
15:15:03 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
Replying to “I saw great intervie…”
Yes I think his new book will be well worth reading.
15:15:19 From Jacky to Everyone:
wow
15:15:31 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
She’s great Jacky, glad you’ve found her. We are looking forward to doing more work with her soon.
15:16:11 From Hilary Martin to Everyone:
Just had a notification that Russell B will be interviewing Dr Michael Mehls on the effect on the brain of the jabs.
15:16:58 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
i’m there for a workshop on the 7th June but don’t know if my ticket allows me anywhere else
15:17:06 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
IPM Congress. Use the code EXH-20 to get a 20% discount on conference tickets. Use code ANH-FREE to get free access to the exhibition and workshops.
https://www.ipmcongress.com/
15:17:33 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
You can either visit to see the exhibition and take part in the many workshops or for the full conference plus exhibition and workshops.
15:17:56 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
6-8th June London
15:19:29 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Melanie have you tried EVOX and using it with RECALL HEALING to release emotions.
15:20:01 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Melanie sign me up for that please..
15:21:28 From Moira Newiss to Everyone:
Also do come to the Public Health Collaboration conference in May this year in Croydon, they have some great debates this year incl one on red meat, and very new research on diet from US researchers on lean mass hyper responders (lipids) of which I am one! Should be good. Open to professionals and public. https://phcuk.org/phc-conference-2024/
15:22:32 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
What’s the scan called?
15:22:52 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
ok great, I will come visit!!
15:22:57 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
thx got it cardio vision
15:23:18 From Cori12 to Everyone:
How to communicate protected??
15:24:00 From Viviana Patterson to Everyone:
Thank you. As always great information. Bye 👋🏻
15:25:52 From Helen Doyle to Everyone:
Ive been taking it and feel great
15:26:27 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
I have a bottle of MB and not used it but I am going to give it a go but I also don’t like the synthetic…but want to try it for energy as it bypasses the Electron T. Chain. I bought the 1%. Apparently if you mix the dose with ascorbic acid it becomes Leuco-Blue but not sure if get the same benefits. That way you don’t get the staining.
15:26:54 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Try the metal straw Ann!
15:27:00 From Cori12 to Everyone:
I signed today the freespech-Petition ….
15:28:03 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
Please download FreeSpeech4Health.org flyer (click here) – and circulate as widely as you can! Thanks!
15:28:32 From Jacky to Everyone:
I’ve noticed others who believe the narrative asking why the words have to be bleeped to and the penny is dropping
15:29:22 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Melani why metal straw wouldn’t there be a reaction? what about a thick paper one?
15:30:09 From Helen Doyle to Everyone:
Lots of lip balm
15:30:25 From Ingrid Franzon to Everyone:
Replying to “Try the metal straw …”
Glass straw
15:30:36 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Rob and Meleni, you are so balanced
15:31:02 From Suzanna to Everyone:
Thank you so much for all!💗
15:31:03 From Helen Doyle to Everyone:
Wonderful to see you both and everyone
15:31:05 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Thank you, you are all so FAB!
15:31:10 From Cori12 to Everyone:
Replying to “Try the metal straw …”
Glass is always best
15:31:14 From Michelle Felix to Everyone:
Thanks all!! lovely session!
15:31:22 From susan salmon to Everyone:
Thanks so very much!
15:31:24 From maurice mogard to Everyone:
Thanks Rob, Mel & Melissa
15:31:27 From Jacky to Everyone:
thank you
15:31:27 From Bridget to Everyone:
thanks as ever
15:31:27 From Wanda to Everyone:
Thank you all