Pathfinder Members’ Briefing and Q&A – April 2023

It was wonderful to see everyone last week. It’s hard to believe we’re nearly in May. Time is flying by at such a pace for everyone at the moment.

We covered a lot of ground this month ably assisted by a lively chat posing a multitude of questions. So, dive in and catch up with the gang along our newest member of the team Para!

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Q&A Chat

00:23:21 Wanda Briggs: Good shirt, Rob!
00:25:16 Ann Charles: Rob, I heard you on a webinar with Robert Scott Bell where you said the NO VIRUS team was unwilling to debatw with you. Is this the true now and if so, is there a reason? Very interested as they had a ‘kind of debate’ with Dr Byran Ardis….
00:26:54 Suzanna E: Will ANH be at Better Way conference this year?
00:27:20 Melissa Smith: We’ve used some of DPAK’s music in the video of Rob’s presentation in Austin. https://www.anhinternational.org/news/video-building-resilience-offers-best-chance-for-navigating-the-future-successfully/
00:27:38 Wanda Briggs: Not sure if everyone has the same view but only Rob is on the main screen. Meleni is just in the snapshot area.
00:27:59 Melissa Smith: Are you on gallery view Wanda?
00:29:09 Wanda Briggs: On Speaker View
00:29:33 Melissa Smith: It should switch between speakers. Perhaps try switching to gallery view and then back again and see what happens.
00:30:07 Meleni Aldridge: Hi Suzanna, I can answer two of your questions here – yes, you can take more than one peptide together, but it’s best to stick at around 3 at a time (if you want to do multiple) and not more than 5.We’re not going to be at the Better Way conference this year as Rob and I were already committed during those dates.
00:30:09 Wanda Briggs: It doesn’t really matter, I can still see and hear. And now Rob is speaking…
00:30:34 Melissa Smith: 👍
00:34:10 Meleni Aldridge: Wanda, gallery view will give you everyone in a tiled window. You can switch views by clicking the View button in the top right of the screen.
00:34:23 Celia Conrad: I watched the recording of the Peptides webinar and emailed Profound about practitioners, but they said they don’t have ones they recommend. Do you know any practitioner I could contact? Thank you
00:34:37 Melissa Smith: Muddy Waters report – https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23782224-senate-covid-19-origins-report
00:35:35 Ann Charles: Did anyone see the debate in Parliament re the WHO and IHR regs. MP Andrew Bridgen was great but alas it was defeated, sadly but expected and not so many in the house!
00:35:39 Debby: I hope people have seen the statement/interview with RFKjr and what he said on how the DOD made arrangements with Pfizer et al to use their names on the bioweaponary they released?
00:35:41 Meleni Aldridge: That’s really interesting Celia, thank you for letting us know. I’ve got a call with one of the Profound team next week so I’ll ask the question. It’s perhaps because they’ve not made an actual qualified list yet.
00:36:15 Jacky Parker: I’d be interested to see how the peptides test out through kinesiology muscle testing.
00:36:34 Meleni Aldridge: Debby, do you have a link?
00:37:03 Barbara p: great to see jordan peterson and dr scott jensen speaking out ion vaccines +++ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YRMajzRKU8
00:37:09 Debby: Will try and track it down – was on a Telegram group
00:37:23 Melissa Smith: Link to the transcript of the Parliamentary debate which took place in the Westminster Hall not the main Parliament. https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2023-04-17/debates/12BE683F-A25C-46E5-9FE9-B9C12CCDA9B7/PandemicPreventionPreparednessAndResponseInternationalAgreement
00:38:28 Wanda Briggs: Are you talking about “right” and “left” spinning water?
00:38:29 Meleni Aldridge: I tested a few for me last year Jacky and they were all very strong. It’s going to depend on which peptides are indicated for an individual. Would be good to have a test kit of all of them, but I don’t think that exists yet!
00:38:56 Ann Charles: What about the recent Ipeel label on fruits and veges. A kind of synthetic injected in them to make shelf life longer. Asda and Tesco are trialling them in certain stores. I wonder how this affects organic…
00:39:09 Jenny BD: Are you going to mention yesterday’s UK inquest verdict recording the death of a psychologist due to “unintended complications of the AZ Covid vaccine”?
00:39:49 Melissa Smith: I’ll talk a little bit about the Apeel veg & fruit coating Ann.
00:40:06 Debby: Replying to “Debby, do you have a…”So, it’s on Vigilante Fox twitter feed?
00:40:29 Ann Charles: @ Jenny, yes that ws rather strange wording ‘unintended’ so reality or truth there then!
00:40:44 Jacky Parker: Oh wow, that’s good to hear Meleni. Test kits would be great!
00:44:26 Meleni Aldridge: Jenny, is that Steven Wright’s appeal inquest or a different one? There are more happening at the moment I think because of the upcoming class action against AZ.
00:50:32 Dian Shepperson: Pellingrino medical ethics
Bioethics
1. Treating the patient as a whole person. Listening to them and working for the patient good.
2. Using the specialist consultants knowledge and skill for the good of the patient.
3. Allowing the patient informed choice and to have a choice of treatment which pertains to their individual needs.
00:50:49 Meleni Aldridge: Thanks Dian!
00:51:18 Para Florescu: Thank you Dian! 🙂
00:51:40 Jacky Parker: Rupert Sheldrake, the Science delusion
00:51:41 Suzanna E: I noticed that Wikipedia “powered by AI’ refers to ANH as “pseudo-scientific”
00:51:51 Celia Conrad: All the promotion of AI with us being told embrace it or be left behind.
00:52:17 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, we’ve been on the naughty list with Wikipedia for many years 😂 A badge of honour now I feel!
00:53:05 Suzanna E: 😂Yup Like the disinformation Dozen
00:53:36 Barbara p: interestingly though, i believe, our so called ‘spiritual leaders’ (clergies etc) also largely go along with the non-spiritual narratives
00:53:40 Melissa Smith: Interesting post seen on LinkedIn today. I rather think the use of the Intelligence is deliberate to give an illusion of sentience….
What is the difference between INTELLECT and INTELLIGENCE?
The INTELLECT understands a lot, yet very often cannot produce a context of meaning and “look behind” the words and phrases.
INTELLIGENCE enables us to read “between the lines”.
With a significant INTELLECT, we can gain recognition and a good reputation on the surface.
With our INTELLIGENCE, we can listen to what is actually meant. And for that, we don’t require any approval from the outside but resonance from within.
Pondering on those two words, I now wonder whether “ai” Artificial INTELLIGENCE should rather be called “Artificial INTELLECT”?
What is your reflection on it?
00:55:08 Para Florescu: Yes Barbara I agree a lot of it is institutionalised and politicised!
00:58:13 Para Florescu: https://www.evansvanodine.co.uk/assets/eng_apeel.pdf that’s the data sheet that’s being shared, which is not actually related to the EdiPeel as Melissa will be explaining
00:58:23 Ann Charles: I’m not on the forum – don’t know how it works…but I’ll have to have a look where it is – Can you provide a link Melissa
01:00:02 Para Florescu: Ann that is the link to the forum https://alliance-for-natural-health-intl.mn.co/
01:02:05 Melissa Smith: You’ll be asked to create an account when you click on the link Ann. I will then need to approve your membership as it’s a private forum so it won’t be instant access.
01:03:14 Suzanna E: Why can’t you take the edipeel off?
01:03:27 Bobby Teague: What about organic rules ?
01:03:37 Melissa Smith: It has organic approval in the US.
01:04:36 Suzanna E: Exactly – you lose the nutrition in and near the peel
01:04:50 Melissa Smith: Apeel says the source of the mono and diglycerides are non GMO.
01:04:51 Jerome Burne: Are you looking at what isn’t being researched? Seems that research into promising non-drug treatments by health charities, such as the Alzheimer”s ones, is rare.
Funding to investigate drugs to clear plaque runs into billions.
Funding to test benefits of combining O3 and B complex is virtually zero, even though studies that have been done are v favourable. This is a pattern that must be common.
The obvious reason is lack of commercial potential, but how many members of the public would accept that was an acceptable driver of medical research?It’s something I’m researching.
Jerome
01:06:17 Melissa Smith: Thanks for joining the Forum @Jenny BD.
01:07:03 Ann Charles: But wouldn’t the coating get into the fruit itself? Its bad enough that most fruit and veges we get are picked unripe and not great. Agh it is so maddening. Even some organics are sprayed but because its under a certain amount it’s allowed., so I’m informed
01:09:03 Melissa Smith: Good question Ann. Apeel Sciences indicates not but we’re still investigating these areas.
01:09:28 Suzanna E: I like distilled water!
01:10:26 Irene MacIntyre: I use a copper water bottle. Does that help. It makes the water so smooth
01:10:51 Suzanna E: How about a silver jug of water basin old days?
01:11:04 Suzanna E: *as in
01:11:11 Dian Shepperson: E471 from oils
Palm
Coconut
Soybean
Cottonseed
Canola
Presumably plus pesticides?
01:11:16 Jenny BD: Can one restructure RO water?
01:11:51 Para Florescu: Yes Dian not a very good mix ☹️
01:11:52 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, you can restructure it and there are various methods out there. The vessels that contain it won’t necessary restructure it without intervention.
01:11:57 Jacky Parker: oh boy, all mono crops resulting in deforestation
01:12:55 Jacky Parker: what about metal in the body?
01:13:12 Suzanna E: I’ve seen a metal “water-structuring pen” that has structured water locked inside it that apparently structures it
01:13:34 Bobby Teague: Is there a vortex fittin for a hosepipe ?
01:15:10 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, Suzanna, water is amazing, has memory and an imperative to be structured. You can add a few mls oof structured water into a large vat and the entire vat of water will structure. It’s why we do so well when we drink it – it structures all the water in our body. Please do send a link to that pen through so we can take a look.
01:15:24 Celia Conrad: I have the Omnia orbs for my devices. They even make teeny ones for earbuds. .
01:15:48 Dian Shepperson: Plan A is that it will be part of the body
01:16:48 Mary: What’s the name of the place Rob mentioned to get organic seeds?
01:17:02 Rob Verkerk PhD: Garden Organic
01:17:25 Rob Verkerk PhD: https://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/
01:18:43 Dian Shepperson: The Peter Principle
Promoted beyond your capabilities
01:19:15 Ann Charles: Know anything about the Analemma Wand – Dolf Zantinge – for structuring water? Could be an easy way if it works and its available in UK
01:19:50 Suzanna E: That is fascism – corporation hand in hand with government
01:20:29 Melissa Smith: https://analemma-water.com/
01:20:35 Wanda Briggs: We need proportional representation as a small way to having MPs more accountable
01:21:04 Suzanna E: But we are not given any option to consent or not with WHO – democracy is dead
01:21:59 Jacky Parker: apparently it’s what george orwell feared – that we’d be slaves to consumerism by cosying up with the u.s.
01:22:46 Melissa Smith: https://www.anchorrising.com/barnacles/015169.html
01:22:55 Suzanna E: Yes – NAZI was National Socialist German Workers’ Party,
01:23:48 Suzanna E: The Control Group is doing an own your own health data card
01:29:33 Celia Conrad: My 19 year old cousin in Australia is triple jabbed. She just had emergency surgery for a 6cm tear in her bladder and the drs were saying it was unbelievable as she had not had a trauma injury. But they don’t question why. I don’t say anything as they think I’m anti tax and I should trust the science…
01:31:18 Meleni Aldridge: I’m so sorry to hear that Celia. Thank goodness she’s ok though, but it’s not usual for people of her age to have something like that happen. There is so much happening that’s new, but I think it’s too hard for people to take on the enormity of what may be behind it.
01:32:20 Melissa Smith: https://shop.twistedsage.com/
01:32:32 Para Florescu: https://www.anhinternational.org/news/can-ancient-tensor-tech-make-modern-day-emfs-safe/
01:32:43 Para Florescu: The article about the tensors!
01:32:53 Melissa Smith: Link for Safesleeves – https://www.safesleevecases.com/
01:32:56 Jacky Parker: are smart dots any good? I use them but have no idea if they work or not.
01:33:19 Ann Charles: What about a faraday bag for phone?
01:34:04 Rob Verkerk PhD: From: https://www.anhinternational.org/news/feature-frequency-medicine-part-2-devices-wacky-or-worthy/

Trifield suggests the following levels might be reasonable thresholds for ‘EMF safe’ environments for the following three fields. Unlike the non-sensical ICNIRP limits, the company suggests these levels make sense because there is no evidence for the induction of health problems (even non-thermally induced ones) when levels are below them:

Magnetic field: 3 mG standard, 5 mG weighted
Electrical field: 50 V/m standard or weighted
RF: 0.200 mW/m2 (field measurement), 1.000 mW/m2 (peak measurement)
01:34:41 Barbara p: I have account with como systems, be interested to get a views… https://biohacking.comosystems.com/
01:35:29 Jane Roberts: Does Q-link work too?
01:35:32 Michelle Felix: what is the name for what you are wearing Meleni?
01:36:55 Debby: Dental implants?
01:37:23 Melissa Smith: Michelle, Meleni is wearing the Alchemist pendant https://shop.twistedsage.com/collections/pendants/products/alchemist-pendant
01:37:35 Michelle Felix: thanks!
01:37:39 Melissa Smith: Yes, Debby depending on the implants, they can be a problem.
01:38:03 Debby: Any suggestions for replacing titanium implants?
01:38:59 Meleni Aldridge: Debby, I’d say if you have them and they aren’t causing you problems, leave well alone! Some people are fine and others have problems.
01:39:16 Debby: Thanks
01:39:51 Rowena: Family member had severe headaches from what was found to be dental metal problems and took a volt meter to his mouth (electrical engineer!) and was very surprised at high reading!
01:40:32 Ann Charles: what tri field meter are you using – name and model no please. That’s another mind field for me and does that trifield meter dmeasure so called ‘dirty electricity’ in the hard wiring?
01:41:09 Melissa Smith: Trifield TF2 Ann. https://www.trifield.com/product/trifield-emf-meter/
01:42:54 Suzanna E: Also :a yes or no question re peptides – have you taken more than 1 set at a time or are they taken consecutively (10 days of 1 kind, 10 days of another…)?
01:43:39 Para Florescu: You can take up to 3 at the same time Suzanna from my understanding
01:43:58 Suzanna E: Thanks @Para
01:44:05 Barbara p: yes im using peptides since the talk you had and recommending them for clients, in particular in the UAE now
01:44:21 Melissa Smith: That’s great to hear Barbara.
01:44:22 Debby: Have been taking the (natural) Profound Health pineal peptide for 7 days so far in the hope of helping my CFS – no noticeable effect so far
01:44:34 Suzanna E: A shame the peptides are so pricey.
01:44:37 Barbara p: and yes, ok to use 3 peptides, or even 4 at a time
01:44:49 Meleni Aldridge: Here’s a link for the UK for the TriField TF2 meter: https://emf-protection.co.uk/product/trifield-tf2/
It’s a bit pricey, but that’s because it measures the 3 different fields – magnetic, electrical and radio frequency.
01:45:04 Cori: So glad, just returning home, to be with you for the last minutes of this Q&A – Love to all of you
01:45:23 Para Florescu: Glad you could join us Cori even for a few minutes 😍
01:45:48 Cori: 😍
01:46:07 Michelle Felix: we are very grateful for all of you!!!
01:47:05 Suzanna E: Long live the Dark Fringes!
01:47:07 Celia Conrad: Thank you all so much for working your nuts off for us. We appreciate you 😍
01:47:30 Melissa Smith: 💝
01:48:10 Jacky Parker: There is a good book by a retired irish dr that talks to this topic – how messed up the research, p’peer review’ system is etc
01:48:14 Cori: @SE: Are the peptides not expensive?
01:48:31 Rowena: Yes, hugely appreciate all your efforts
01:48:34 Jacky Parker: *peer reviewed studies
01:48:40 Suzanna E: @SE: Are the peptides not expensive?
Yes I think so!
01:49:14 Cori: Oh yeah, it’s so precious and full of love what you do for us
01:49:51 Ann Charles: But its not just the shot, they are already moving mRNA into many other drugs. MHRA is an enabler not a protecting agency by their own admission. I wonder if the bio peptides will not be allowed to exist for too long? NAC etc
01:50:35 Cori: I just heard from a wonderful old lady, having a second stroke after 3 vacccines. I am so sad and wonder if I could help her with the peptides swell….
01:50:40 Suzanna E: Thank you guys at ANH so much. Can’t tell you how grateful I am to have these connective meetings and to know you and all of us are out here! I wish you all a great month ahead.
01:50:44 Wanda Briggs: Politicians don’t actually understand science
01:50:53 Sue: 🙏
01:50:56 Ann Charles: I would like to make a suggestion. At some stage would it be possible each month to discuss strategies for X disease?
01:50:56 Sally: So many thanks.
01:50:58 susan salmon: Thanks so much to you all!
01:51:01 Nicola Graves-Gregory: ‘Follow the science’ is anti-scientific xx
01:51:07 Celia Conrad: 😘
01:51:08 Eleanor: Thank you so much
01:51:11 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Thankyou all x x x
01:51:12 Gillie Guy: Thanks everyone!
01:51:19 Ann Charles: Thank you soo much for your time and dedication
01:51:23 Debby: Thanks all!
01:51:30 morag: So much info, hugely grateful to you all
01:51:33 Jacky Parker: thank you so much
01:51:43 marianne.rist: Thank you!!! So nice to hear and see everyone, even though only online.
01:51:48 Wanda Briggs: Thank you very much again. Not just for this but for all the work towards a better world
01:52:27 morag: Great to hear Rob, we all need you to be well!