Pathfinder Members’ Briefing and Q&A – January 2022

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• Save the date!
• Members’ Q&A Chat

It was wonderful to see so many of you able to join our first members’ Q&A of 2022 on Thursday 20th January. Apologies that some of you experienced technical difficulties with the zoom link – we’re still not totally sure why but are hoping it won’t happen again. Just in case, please note the meeting passcode if you’re asked to enter it to join. We’ve not put any restrictions on joining other than needing the right link, but Zoom are continually updating their security, which is out of our control.

As always, it was a packed meeting, with plenty to discuss around the current situation.

For those of you who were unable to join us, had to leave early or just want to remind yourself of some on the discussions, you can now watch the entire session below.

We’re looking forward to putting our best feet forward this year and transforming stressful situations into options for positive change and advancement.

The herbs that Rob mentioned during the Q&A are:

• Scutellaria baicalensis
• Skullcap
• Ashwaghanda
• Citrus peel,
• Licorice

Save the date!

We look forward to seeing everyone in February for the next Q&A on Thursday 17th February – but this time at 6:00 pm GMT.

We’ve listened to you and realise that some are having challenges with the 2:00 pm GMT time, so we thought we’d try alternating each month between the time slots. February will be later, and March will return to 2:00 pm GMT again and so forth. We know the later slot is more of a challenge for our Australian members (sorry!), but hopefully will be easier for those that are working and haven’t managed to join the earlier time. If it doesn’t work, we’re very happy to go back to the drawing board again!

 Here are the details:

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 Passcode: 473240

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Members’ Q&A Chat

00:11:41 maurice mogard: Where are you in Sweden Ingrid?
00:14:43 Susanna Eastwood: I think it’s a great time for meeting!
00:16:09 maurice mogard: I’m in Funäsdalen Ingrid, easy to pronounce?
00:16:28 Meleni Aldridge: Definitely not so easy to pronounce!
00:22:34 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Can you give me links to mainstream documents showing that the “vaccines” have been causing heart problems. I have a 34 year old son with Down Syndrome who is clear that he does not want the jab. He is very healthy, has been helped throughout his life with craniosacral and homoeopathy. He eats healthily, walks about 22K steps a day. He had a heart op when he was a baby, using only his own pericardium for his hole in the heart. His cardiologist has said that he should have a jab. His GP is sympathetic to Joseph and me, even telling me that even though he has had the ‘vaccine’, his wife has not. I want to give mainstream back-up for Joseph. Can you help, please?
00:23:48 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, Nicola, no problem. There are a lot of papers regarding the heart side effects. We’ll make a note to email you afterwards.
00:24:23 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Brilliant. Many thanks. You’re great!!!
00:25:07 Versha Carter: The second year of Covid has been the most depressing because of the division associated with people’s free choice. The first year we were all working together to keep everyone safe – this past year has been very sad.
00:26:13 Susanna Eastwood: Wondering what you think about the patterns of batch numbers correlating with adverse reaction for vaccines through the howbad.info site?
00:26:56 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, Versha, totally share your sentiments, but the division and polarisation has been a construct to divert attention whilst rights and freedoms are siphoned away. We all need to focus on solidarity going forwards, no matter the choices made.
00:30:23 helen lynam: Without getting too political (!) how grateful should we be to Boris Johnson (with all his flaws) for helping the UK to tread a different path that is more supportive to us? and with the pressure it seems coming off vaccination at the moment – is this just a pause before the next generation come out?
00:31:23 Suzannah UK: Please list all the herbs mentioned!
00:32:18 dominigordon: a fermented product too!
00:32:26 dominigordon: ivermectin that is
00:32:28 Neil Milliken: where does one recommend where we buy ivermectin? in Edinburgh pharmacies, its £300 for 4 tabs!! its normally 2.9 pence a tab!
00:32:28 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, I know Helen! My sense is that we should be grateful and it’s interesting that Boris hasn’t gone through the WEF grooming with Klaus Schwab like many of the other leaders. Even if he’s doing it to save his skin, it’s going to allow us a pause to stride forwards is my view.
00:33:02 Janie Larus-McShane: Many thanks for the reply! One follow up: you said your wife had Delta and she had Omicron too. I have heard of several stories like that. This is in contradiction to many saying you have durable immunity once you have the virus. Could you speak to this reinfection please ? Many thanks!
00:33:46 Meleni Aldridge: Neil, we have an early treatment protocol on the Members Area of the website and the ordering details are on there. You order from an international company that delivers direct to consumer to your home.
00:34:02 susan castle: The symptoms you mention I would say were the same/similar to six years of chronic fatigue – sleeping up to 18 hours a day and not being on this planet for the other 6 hours. I recovered with neural pathway retraining. Do you think the constant fear mongering has added to the number of people succumbing.
00:34:12 Meleni Aldridge: We can email it to you if you can’t find it.
00:34:39 Kirsten Fulton: Do you know if jab helps form T-cell based immunity ?
00:34:53 Suzannah UK: Thank you, Meleni
00:35:10 Caroline Sherwood: When I had a nasty three week infection in October/November (aching joints, absolutely wiped out) – don’t know what it was (didn’t get tested but rested and drank a lot of fluids, ate fruit, concentrated on getting better. Yes, didn’t want to eat at first. It was a herbal tincture prescribed by a medical herbalist which helped me recover completely.
00:36:01 Jane Baldwin: I ordered ivermectin as per the website and it arrived safely into the UK last week … thank you! 😀
00:36:21 Michelle Felix: What is your take on the slides shown on BBC yesterday showing the numbers of hospitalised unvaccinated for the whole of 2021 diagnosed with COVID being so high? Are these figures skewed by the fact that it may not be COVID that has landed them in hospital?
00:36:24 Arlene: What is the risk to someone who is unvaccinated and vulnerable being around a family member who is vaccinated?
00:36:49 Jennifer: Do you know of anyone who has had IVM successfully delivered into Australia. I’m keen to order some but wary of the scrutiny of our border security!!
00:38:03 Meleni Aldridge: Just replying to Susan here – you’re right there’s such a correlation with CFS and the after effects of the virus, particularly long covid. Yes, the fear and anxiety that people are living under is creating many neurological issues and I’m sure adding to the loss of immune function.
00:38:54 Meleni Aldridge: Jennifer, not as yet – but we have another product which is proving very effective and I believe it’s available there. I’m trying to get ordering details for our members from the manufacturers. It’s called ArtemiC.
00:39:50 susan castle: Thank you Meleni. there’s an upside! Those who discounted all those CFS sufferers now understand how debilitating it is!! Not to be wished on anybody
00:40:10 Meleni Aldridge: Great advice Caroline for any infections! You may well have had omicron back then.
00:40:59 dominigordon: Rob, what were your thoughts on Joachim Gerlach’s presentation at WCH meeting on monday just gone?
00:41:00 Caroline Sherwood: Interesting, Melani. It did have some digestive symptoms, though not diarrhoea.
00:41:48 Janie Larus-McShane: Could you please give us the link for the paper Rob is referencing about equal viral load for jabbed and jab-free?
00:44:50 Neil Milliken: considering omicron is only 0.3% different from original, producing a similar antibody response to original, should we be at all concerned?
00:46:21 Versha Carter: Can I ask what type of Zinc do you need to take – Zinc Citrate’ ?
00:46:47 Ingrid Franzon: Is T cell testing the only way of assessing immunity?
00:50:22 Melissa Smith: This is paper on the Vietnamese healthcare workers – https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733
00:50:38 Simone Dill: With masks mandates scrapped for schools, I was surprised that my daughters school decided to continue mask wearing (until reviewed). Could you advise how to approach the school and direct me to some links please to advise them against continues mask wearing. 💚 thank you
00:51:02 dominigordon: what about Joachim’s attitude to omicron? i was surprised
00:51:21 susan castle: There is a fascinating talk between Dr Zach Bush and Aubrey Marcus on uTube where Dr Bush suggests the virus is a physical upgrade to raise us in a spiritual consciousness and it should be seen as a positive for humanity
00:51:40 Melissa Smith: UsForThem are running a campaign to stop the schools requiring mask wearing Simone. Good to have a look at what they’re doing. They have a page on FB. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10421937/Parents-fight-schools-vowed-defy-end-Plan-B-force-pupils-wear-masks.html
00:52:04 Meleni Aldridge: Versha, as long as you get 40-50 mg elemental zinc in a daily dose when you’ve got symptoms the form of zinc doesn’t matter too much but zinc citrate is inexpensive, bioavailable and the one we usually use and recommend.
00:52:16 Simone Dill: Thanks Melissa
00:53:34 Versha Carter: Meleni – for boosting immune system before you get Covid do you just take 15mg?
00:57:59 Meleni Aldridge: Versha, that’s a bit low but its common as it’s the EU NRV level for many member states. I’d go for 25 or 30 mg a day for general immune support during the winter months particularly.
00:58:25 Meleni Aldridge: But always take zinc away from meals that contain grains as the phytates complex out the zinc so the body can’t use it.
00:58:38 Trish Appleton: Re. Paxlovid, the new anti viral which was approved late December for UK early intervention (although only available for those deemed at risk of more serious disease) would you recommend avoiding taking this if in possession of Ivermectin to take at first infection with other therapeutics ?
00:59:28 Meleni Aldridge: I don’t mean NRV level – I mean upper level for member member states. The NRV for zinc is very low and certainly not enough.
01:00:52 Michelle Felix: The COVID recovery no longer works – we have spoken to various embassies
01:03:04 helen lynam: my only concern for mexico is that if for any reason there is an aircraft diversion, it would tend to be the USA!
01:03:06 susan castle: My daughter had COVID a while back. Came back positive antibodies but not Tcells
01:03:36 Jennifer: Do you think standard PCR test are detecting Omicron reliably? I’ve had family members who have been casual and close contacts (household family members of positive patients) who seem to have all the symptoms but test negative!! that seems very odd given the transmissibility!
01:03:40 Michelle Felix: the websites say they recognise the pass but when you call them they just mean they recognise the App
01:04:47 Ingrid Franzon: Is that CORBEVAX?
01:05:03 Meleni Aldridge: That’s helpful Michelle, thanks.
01:05:18 Meleni Aldridge: I’m not sure Ingrid – Melissa do you know?
01:05:51 helen lynam: sorry, i have to go – thanks so much as always – I will listen to the recording for the rest 🙏
01:06:19 Meleni Aldridge: Helen, one would hope they wouldn’t leave everyone stranded on the plane in that case!
01:06:58 Susanna Eastwood: Thanks for this amazing Q & A. Unfortunately I can’t stay to the end but I will look at the video posted to catch up with the end. Thanks and best new wishes to all
01:07:39 Diana Grose: And our DNA is divine
01:07:51 Melissa Smith: Corbevax has been developed by Texas Children’s Hospital Center for Vaccine Development at Baylor College of Medicine. Valneva is a French developed vaccine.
01:07:55 susan castle: Yes Diana x
01:07:56 Melissa Smith: More on Corbevax https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/15/corbevax-covid-vaccine-texas-scientists
01:08:37 Caroline Sherwood: Thanks, Melissa.
01:11:32 Michelle Felix: just to be clear about the recovery pass – this only changed on the 15th December to no longer be recognised, you could travel on it before then
01:11:48 Melissa Smith: Article on PCR testing that Rob has just referred to – https://www.anhinternational.org/news/why-your-positive-test-result-is-likely-wrong/
01:12:43 eleanor: Sorry, I have to go, but will listen to the rest later. Thank you for a great webinar.
01:12:45 Meleni Aldridge: Thanks Michelle, that’s really helpful as things are changing all the time.
01:13:04 Michelle Felix: does anyone know of a really reliable testing centre to do private testing of antibodies and T Cell?
01:13:14 Suzannah UK: Exactly, Rob!
01:14:42 susan castle: For Michelle The Private Harley Street Clinic
01:15:02 Michelle Felix: thanks Susan!
01:15:22 susan castle: Research which is the best test. Takes some working out
01:16:33 Jim Kirwan: Have to go. Thanks.
01:17:05 hilary: Do you have any info on how easy it is to prove someone has died from the jab via a post mortem? Do you know whether post mortema are checking for this if it is an unexpected death?
01:18:23 susan castle: What about radiation poisoning?
01:18:39 Hilary M: The figures for miscarriages and stillbirths after vaccines during pregnancy are horrendous
01:20:12 Melissa Smith: https://pathologie-konferenz.de/
01:21:06 Meleni Aldridge: Those figures are horrendous Hilary yes, but it’s good that in the UK, a group of midwives have given evidence to the Met Police as part of the Sam White/Mark Sexton criminal case.
01:22:35 Versha Carter: Thank you so much for your presentation.
01:24:05 Hilary M: After her second vaccine,The stroke that was caused by the heart inflammation in my daughter in USA, has left her with right sided weakness and she is awaiting surgery for the damage to heart
01:24:25 dominigordon: thank you
01:24:50 Rob Verkerk: This is the article referencing the German pathology report: https://www.anhinternational.org/news/what-s-in-the-jabs-they-re-so-desperate-to-give-us/
01:24:55 Melissa Smith: So sorry to hear about your daughter Hilary. It must be very difficult for you.
01:25:11 susan castle: Sending good wishes to your daughter Hilary M
01:25:11 Rob Verkerk: https://www.notonthebeeb.co.uk/post/german-pr
01:25:57 Hilary M: Thank you Melissa. I am desperate to visit her but of course they won’t allow me into USA
01:26:25 Meleni Aldridge: Oh Hilary, I’m so so sorry to hear about your daughter. If there’s anything we can do to help, please let us know.
01:27:27 Suzannah UK: Let us co-create the New Earth!
01:28:17 susan castle: Yes Suzannah x
01:28:44 Hilary M: Thank you for your support—it is invaluable.
01:28:45 Michelle Felix: can someone just remind me about the iodine drops in the salt pipe – do you have to mix the drops with water or do you use it as is, and how many drops is safe so as not to burn when you breathe it in?
01:29:12 Meleni Aldridge: It’s Lugol’s Iodine Michelle. Details on the protocol in the Members Area.
01:29:24 susan castle: Michelle – just drop in – it works brilliantly
01:29:51 Melissa Smith: https://www.anhinternational.org/members-portal/members-news/covid-self-care-early-treatment-home-use-protocol/
01:29:51 Kirsten Fulton: 2 drops of 15% iodine solution into salt pipe. If acute up to every 2h
01:30:03 Michelle Felix: thanks, I’ve got Lugols, I put in 3 drops and it burnt a bit as I breathed it in so wasn’t sure if I was doing something wrong
01:30:17 Eric Marshall: we use two or three drops of 15% lugol’s iodine with no problems
01:30:30 Michelle Felix: ok thank you, I will persevere
01:30:45 Alison’s iPad: Yeeesssss
01:30:48 Kirsten Fulton: Just gently sniff it. Not too deep breaths
01:31:36 Michelle Felix: aah, I wasn’t sniffing it I was inhaling, that could be why
01:32:04 susan castle: No you should inhale
01:32:09 Melissa Smith: Plus the Royal College of Nursing and some of the Unions are running scared as well
01:32:43 Michelle Felix: ok
01:33:09 Hilary M: It was amazing to see the anaesthetist challenging Sajid Javid ON THE BBC! A chink in the biased messages
01:33:49 Suzannah UK: Please don’t forget how important the mind is.
01:34:20 Michelle Felix: ok, thank you!
01:34:25 Suzannah UK: Yes, a parallel life style!
01:36:16 susan castle: Thank you so much
01:36:19 Suzannah UK: WONDERFUL, Meleni!
01:36:31 Hilary M: My acupuncturist is treating far more vaccine damaged patients than Covid damaged ones
01:36:43 Versha Carter: This is so good to hear – I love the BMJ article from the editors saying that Covid will end when we turn off our TVs 🙂
01:37:00 Melissa Smith: So sad, but thanks goodness for those practitioners who are there and able to help.
01:38:17 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Have you a link for that BMJ article, Versha?
01:39:08 Melissa Smith: https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj-2021-068094
01:39:10 Suzannah UK: Bless you, Meleni!
01:39:52 Celia Conrad: Thank you all xx
01:39:53 Wendy Temple Smith: Thank you everyone – wonderful to be here.
01:39:53 Caroline Sherwood: Thank you everyone for a wonderful gathering. So much useful information – greatly appreciated!
01:40:00 Eric Marshall: Thank you very much
01:40:06 Jane Barrett – Gut Nutritionist: Thank you for all you do guys
01:40:10 Izabela: thank youvery much!
01:40:11 Michelle Felix: if anyone knows of any courses that are not too expensive and long that can be done to become a natural medicine practitioner please let me know. I need a career change in the wake of potentially losing my job – michelle.felix@sky.com
01:40:12 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Big thanks to you, Rob and Mel x x x x x x
01:40:18 Susan Salmon: Thank you. So grateful to you all!
01:40:35 Ingrid Franzon: Thank you Rob, Mel, Melissa and all!
01:40:35 Hilary M: Amazing meeting. Thank you so much
01:40:42 Michelle Felix: thank you so much for another very informative session!!
01:40:47 Suzannah UK: Bless all 3 of you!
01:40:51 Victoria Parnell: Big thank you
01:40:54 Janie Perry: THANK YOU SO MUCH! You provide such wonderful information, researched and reliable. I’m so glad to be part of this
01:40:54 morag: Many thanks for all the positivity
01:40:58 Jennifer: Thank you all so much. So glad to have ANH and the whole extended team in my life.
01:40:59 Wendy Temple Smith: Yippee! Look forward to that!
01:41:07 jo: How do I re-access this chat? I want to be able to read it all.
01:41:17 Elaine T: Thanks so much, so good to hear the update
01:41:18 hilary: thanks everyone. Hope to see some of you at the march in London on Saturday
01:41:25 Marisca Ribeiro: Many many thanks.🙏🏾❣️
01:41:29 Alison’s iPad: Thank everyone lots of love
01:41:33 Simone Dill: Thank you all