Pathfinder Members’ Briefing and Q&A – April 2022

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• Zoom chat

It’s hard to believe that the Q&A session for this month has been and gone already. It seemed to come round so quickly. Time is passing by at a rapid rate of knots this year it seems as so much is happening and changing on a daily basis.

It was wonderful, as always, that so many of you were able to join us live. Your input makes the Q&A’s so special not just to the team but everyone who joins in live or watches the recording. It was certainly a lively and packed session this month with topics ranging from the WHO Pandemic Treaty, the pesky spike protein through to food shortages and growing your own food (we’ve added a Grow Your Own Circle to the Members’ Forum for anyone interested in becoming more self-sufficient).

The Zoom chat from the meeting can be found below the video.

Please enjoy the Q&A and if you have any questions feel free to drop the team a line at info@anhinternational.org

Date for next Q&A: Thursday 19th May @ 2pm

Zoom chat

18:02:20 From Bridget Harper to Everyone:
Hi Everyone, I will need to leave at 6.35 but will catch up with recording. Lovely to see everyone present. This is such a refreshing meeting.
18:02:58 From Celia Conrad to Everyone:
I wanted to ask about what is happening with our water and what they are putting in to it and what we can do about it?
18:14:34 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Re Ardis interview, Yes saw it, but the way it was portrayed didn’t gel so much with me as ‘fake’ emotion was OTT. Steve Kirsch addressed the interview and posed relevant questions on his substack, some he agreed with but asked him to debate others. So far haven’t seen anything.
18:14:48 From susanna e to Everyone:
Who doesn’t love a little aluminium!
18:17:58 From susanna e to Everyone:
What can we do about the WHO pandemic treaty? Is it inevitable? Does it spell the end of democracy?
18:18:24 From Irene MacIntyre to Everyone:
Shell games on the go
18:18:28 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
UK Col.org interviewed Sir Christopher Choke MP- so maybe something will come to light due to the MHRA not addressing the yellow card info.
18:19:14 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
The WHO information re the hearing arrived today in a newsletter!!
18:19:39 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Is there a mechanism to respond to the WHO pandemic treaty?
18:19:40 From Moira Newiss to Everyone:
And everyone is on their Easter holiday – timing intentional I’m sure!
18:21:03 From susanna e to Everyone:
MONEY
18:24:19 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
There was a small window of 48 hours to submit a comment of 250 words but only 1250 characters to the WHO. That window has now closed, but may well open again in June if they go ahead with the next public hearing.
18:24:35 From susanna e to Everyone:
World Council for Health had info on how to tackle /respond to WHO treaty and they are great reference
18:24:53 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Good point re the timing and Easter holidays. Textbook!
18:25:25 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
https://www.anhinternational.org/news/is-south-africa-the-post-covid-digital-surveillance-launchpad-for-the-world/
18:27:40 From susanna e to Everyone:
Where are you going in Mexico?
18:28:02 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
About 3 hours north of Mexico City.
18:28:07 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Re Russia/Ukraine/Nato/Wef. Think they are all on the same page but just a jostling for power? Your thoughts?
18:28:13 From Phil Butchers to Everyone:
Rob, Have you been in contact with Sir Julian Rose
18:29:11 From Wendy Smith to Everyone:
Apologies have to leave the live
18:29:15 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Phil, we know Julian from years past, but haven’t been in contact recently.
18:30:12 From Phil Butchers to Everyone:
What is you take on the push on Bird Flu con
18:30:22 From Moira Newiss to Everyone:
Interesting that this week fresh food in the supermarkets here has been very difficult to find – so glad I decided to make an effort to grow more this year. No organic meat left either and butcher was running low too. Definitely making me think about food supplies again going forward.
18:31:05 From susanna e to Everyone:
We’ll need to deal with all the chronic conditions that will be caused by vaccines…..an avalanche I fear
18:32:03 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Yes, Susanna, there is going to be a lot of that we’re sure. It’s happening already.
18:32:32 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Where are you based Moira?
18:32:43 From Moira Newiss to Everyone:
Any comment on whats happening in China – might have missed it if you talked about it at the beginning.
18:32:51 From susanna e to Everyone:
Can you tell us more about Marburg?
18:33:18 From Moira Newiss to Everyone:
I’m on the west coast of Scotland – now we are in tourist season the shops are looking pretty bare!
18:33:55 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Wow, ok. That’s earlier than expected.
18:34:51 From Jennifer to Everyone:
I wonder if there isn’t something else going on in China – I was wondering whether it’s just Covid or something new that we’re not yet aware of.
18:35:30 From Irene MacIntyre to Everyone:
I noticed that today in Kinross. I just thought it was staff but I’ve never seen the fresh produce so low
18:37:36 From susanna e to Everyone:
Will vaccine damage be labelled virus damage?
18:39:53 From Moira Newiss to Everyone:
I’m wondering if some of the repeat infections are actually reactivation as can happen with other viruses?
18:39:57 From Alison’s iPad to Everyone:
I was thinking that is exactly what’s happening re the “labelling….”
18:42:19 From Vivien Stratton to Everyone:
Susceptibility ….
18:42:26 From Phil Butchers to Everyone:
Isn’t the problem the pcr test?
18:43:32 From Jennifer to Everyone:
Any thoughts on why some people – family members of covid patients – who even get symptoms but continually test covid negative?
18:46:47 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Rob what about the ‘Green Agenda’ making sure little food will be grown in the UK causing more reliance on GMO and food shortages. And Sainsburys 2nd application to expand their GMO potatoes in open fields in the UK (they already have GMO open fields)? If more GMO fields are expanded in the UK- I care – but in the end they should be made to label them as such then at least we have a choice!
18:47:53 From Irene MacIntyre to Everyone:
Worry about the elderly still locking themselves away
18:48:48 From Vivien Stratton to Everyone:
Given that the virus is possibly part of gain of function research and it is highly likely that it is the spike protein that has been worked on – could you explain how ‘natural’ is immunity gained from having the bug rather than a vaccine? Aren’t we still left with a damaged spike protein in our bodies?
18:50:23 From Janie Larus-McShane to Everyone:
Thank you all so much for your fulsome answers!
18:50:53 From deirdre@hobson-net.com to Everyone:
Then stop buying from Sainsbury’s. Happens in Japan to below par cafes, clothing whatever, and works at treat. Business owners in Japan know that the Japanese do not whinge, that they take immediate action by simply not eating in a café anymore etc., action – this has been their modus operandi for many years.
18:52:54 From Lois Radmer to Everyone:
My husband and I had Covid rather badly in late October 2021. In mid December 2021 my antibody level was 203 and my husband’s was 620. In February 2022 my level was 469 and my husband’s was 1260. As anything over 250 is considered a high level we were quite re-assured. This seems to counteract the constant claim that antibodies decline after a few weeks, even in natural immunity. What are your views on this?
18:53:30 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Rob Re spike protein. I have heard that even if you allow yourself to get the virus to get the immune system to response then take IVM etc straight away the spike protein still gets into the body and possibly replicates? Is this correct info?
18:53:32 From Phil Butchers to Everyone:
will black seed oil have a similar result to the spike protein?
18:53:37 From Lois Radmer to Everyone:
I should add that we are unvaccinated
18:53:47 From deirdre@hobson-net.com to Everyone:
Even the 100 Yen shops in Japan have good quality low price products. As a Japanese man said. The Chinese do not even bother sending their rubbish into Japan as we simply do not buy it. I said in Australia they do and junk abounds and not at the low prices.
18:55:25 From Lois Radmer to Everyone:
I will have to check,
18:56:04 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Yes, Phil, black seed oil is very beneficial if you can’t get or don’t want to use ivermectin. FLCCC recommend it and we do too. People have found it very useful, but you need to take enough.
18:57:48 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Artemi-C
18:57:49 From Jennifer to Everyone:
What is Black seed Oil? Oil from what plant? We can’t get IVM in Australia. I’d like to know the alternatives.
18:57:57 From Alison’s iPad to Everyone:
Papain and bromelain ?
18:58:21 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Black Seed Oil – Calculate your dose using 20 – 40mg/kg body weight depending on severity of symptoms.
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Can you touch upon why there seems to be reports showing a positive relationship between the rate of infection and number of vaccines administered? Is this a product of behaviour change alone? Many thanks!
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Jennifer, black seed oil is from Nigella sativa. You should be able to get that in Australia.
18:58:51 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
ARTEMIC – https://artemic.org/en/
18:58:51 From Moira Newiss to Everyone:
Do you have any data on whether long covid affects vaccinated or unvaccinated more. I’ve seen data suggesting its worse for unvaccinated but it is not what I am seeing in my clients – but small pool.
19:01:54 From Vivien Stratton to Everyone:
Would Ivermectin et al work for other viruses such as Marburg?
19:02:54 From Caroline Boyle to Everyone:
I read way back that star anise can be beneficial because it contains shikimic acid. Is this effective in any way?
19:03:30 From Phil Butchers to Everyone:
This question is moving slightly away, but with the importance of our gut microbes, are you concerned with the high use of glyphosate
19:06:34 From Geoff Dack to Everyone:
Presumably, distilling our water would workmin the same way?
19:07:59 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
I’ve seen that too Caroline, but don’t have any data or know of anyone who’s used star anise.
19:09:42 From Ben Atkinson to Everyone:
Melissa, do you have that paper to hand by any chance?
19:09:44 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Vietnamese healthcare workers – https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733
19:09:56 From Ben Atkinson to Everyone:
Thank you!
19:10:39 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Yes, Phil, we’ve been concerned about glyphosate for years and always recommend organic where and if possible. Not sure if you’ve seen the EWG’s Clean Fifteen and Dirty Dozens but they’re useful lists to refer to as well. ewg.org
19:11:22 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Having said that, glyphosate use is so ubiquitous now that we’re all pretty full of it!
19:15:22 From Phil Butchers to Everyone:
Government our paying farmers to leave, complete madness
19:15:45 From Ben Atkinson to Everyone:
I have to drop off. Thank you to all at ANH and everyone else on the call. These Q&As are very valuable.
19:15:55 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Thanks for joining Ben
19:16:50 From Sally to Everyone:
From Sally, Yes, Meleni, great idea!
19:17:05 From Lois Radmer to Everyone:
Gardening advice would be great
19:17:14 From Susan Salmon to Everyone:
Thats an excellent idea Meleni – I’m one of those who haven’t got a clue how to start!!
19:17:28 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Steve Kirsch response to Ardis video. https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/what-i-think-of-the-bryan-ardis-video?r=o7iqo&s=w
19:17:31 From Peter Wilhelmsson to Everyone:
Teaching people to forage for edible wild herbs, Spices, mushrooms and flowers is also an important answer–resource!
19:17:32 From Jennifer to Everyone:
Thoughts on climate change. I think it is definitely an issue – but I also think it has been adopted by the WEF – and we’ve had a large number of very active “Climate change terrorists” causing problems lately – many of them foreigners – and I have a suspicion they’re being funding by WEF for covert reasons.
19:17:43 From deirdre@hobson-net.com to Everyone:
Yes
19:18:12 From Bobby Teague to Everyone:
Follow Monty Don !
19:18:36 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Thanks Bobby, all good if you’re in the UK!
19:19:20 From Phil Butchers to Everyone:
The vertical veg book by Mark Ridsdill is a great book
19:19:24 From Rowena Fairbairn to Everyone:
Sustainable Garden by Marian Boswell is a new book – perhaps worth a review? Available on line.
19:20:11 From deirdre@hobson-net.com to Everyone:
on a balcony with poor sun and yet I enjoyed my fish and super salad with many herbs lunch today with Olive oil of course in Italy. Watercress in a pot (seeds brought from Australia) is overflowing with growth
19:20:18 From Vivien Stratton to Everyone:
Thank you so much to all – off to check out my seed packets …
19:20:35 From Jennifer to Everyone:
We’re having a lot of fresh food shortages in Australia but they are just blaming it all on the floods and fires – I wonder if it’s more than that.
19:21:11 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
https://phmpt.org
19:21:44 From Moira Newiss to Everyone:
I’ve got to go – really enjoyed this again – thank you all!
19:21:46 From deirdre@hobson-net.com to Everyone:
Jennifer, what a load of nonsense. I am an Oz.
19:22:18 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
I think the food supply issues are definitely part of the agenda too. Yes, there have been climate issues and here it the UK, Brexit issues, but nothing keeps people in fear quite like survival issues.
19:22:45 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
I’ve added a new Circle to the Forum to discuss Growing Your Own plus a new topic for the main feed. Here’s the link for the new Circle https://alliance-for-natural-health-intl.mn.co/groups/7453593/feed
Link to join Members’ Forum: https://alliance-for-natural-health-intl.mn.co/
19:23:04 From Phil Butchers to Everyone:
https://verticalveg.org.uk is a great site
19:23:05 From Irene MacIntyre to Everyone:
So our lot knew about natural immunity,!!
19:23:35 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Your balcony sounds amazing Deirdre and really makes me want to get my pots on the go!
19:24:26 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
Great, thanks Phil.
19:24:44 From Hilary M to Everyone:
My daughter in USA has just had heart surgery to repair the damage done by pericarditis following the Moderna vaccine. And she also had a CVA (stroke)
19:25:20 From deirdre@hobson-net.com to Everyone:
DO!! and its pretty to look at, even the water cress has little white flowers. Your problem is time Meleni, but carefully chosen veggie plants and it can be done
19:25:31 From Meleni Aldridge to Everyone:
How is she Hilary? Is she healing?
19:25:35 From Marianne Rist to Everyone:
Hilary, I’m so sorry about your daughter. Best wishes of recovery to her.
19:25:42 From Sue Wallwork to Everyone:
Are there any recommendations for abnormal bleeding in young menstruating women, which has occurred specifically after the vaccine?
19:26:38 From Janie Larus-McShane to Everyone:
Best wishes to Hilary and her daughter….
19:27:18 From Hilary M to Everyone:
She is making a good recovery but has had to put her own business on hold while she recovers. Thank you for all you good wishes—the good news is her they are planning to return to UK
19:27:42 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
Excellent news Hilary. It will be so good for her to be near you again.
19:28:37 From Janie Larus-McShane to Everyone:
Sue, homeopathy can help with post jab irregularities in the menstrual cycle. You can find a homeopath at the Society for Homeopaths. Or contact Homeopathy 24/7 for input….
19:28:48 From Hilary M to Everyone:
Very worrying evidence that autism is not well recognised in women!
19:28:48 From Alison’s iPad to Everyone:
I’ve heard of 2 babies being born with heart issues in the last two weeks….
19:29:53 From Tony Coope to Everyone:
To SW much of this is due to oestrogen dominance due to progesterone depletion via stress and ?spike protein damage. Answer is bio identical progesterone from Wellsprings or Nature… Tony
19:31:29 From Sue Wallwork to Everyone:
Thank you Janie for the homeopathic advice and to Tony for your helpful advice too.
19:31:30 From Sally to Everyone:
From Sally Gaia won’t stand for it
19:32:58 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
what that the soros? foundation for growing food?
19:33:23 From Jennifer to Everyone:
BG is the most evil creature on earth. A human version of Monsanto! (Along with Fauci and Klaus Schwab!)
19:34:36 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
Ann – I mentioned the Organic Consumers Association and the Soil (not Soros!) Association!
19:34:58 From deirdre@hobson-net.com to Everyone:
Rob, talk about planned – re your comments now about Nature linked/trained Scientist’s. all the younger people in WEF and BIlly Gates companies – scarey!
19:35:24 From Rob Verkerk PhD to Everyone:
Indeed Deirdre and Jennifer!
19:35:26 From Janie Larus-McShane to Everyone:
Hearty thanks to all the team at ANH for al you do for this community !
19:36:01 From Marianne Rist to Everyone:
Thank you! Love to everyone
19:36:14 From susanna e to Everyone:
You guys are the best. Very blessed to be part of this community- thank you SO MUCH. Happy Spring Festival!
19:36:15 From Phil Butchers to Everyone:
Vandana shiva is another instant person
19:36:16 From Jennifer to Everyone:
Thank you all so much!
19:36:17 From Celia Conrad to Everyone:
Huge thanks to you all as always x
19:36:19 From deirdre@hobson-net.com to Everyone:
ENJOY your break with you loved ones over Easter and ALWAYS!!
19:36:21 From Alison’s iPad to Everyone:
💗💗💗 we’ll get there!
19:36:21 From Alisa Connan to Everyone:
I so appreciate your work in the world. Thank you for another informative evening talk 💫
19:36:23 From Ann Charles to Everyone:
Thank you all. X
19:36:36 From Celia Conrad to Everyone:
Looking forward to news from Mexico!
19:36:38 From Phil Butchers to Everyone:
Thank you all and a very happy Easter
19:36:42 From Hilary M to Everyone:
Take care in Mexico !
19:36:45 From Caroline Sherwood to Everyone:
Happy Easter everyone! Have a wonderful time in Mexico, Mel and Rob…
19:36:47 From Melissa Smith to Everyone:
💚 Thanks for everyone’s support! xx 💚 
19:36:52 From Rowena Fairbairn to Everyone:
HUGE thanks to all and the great work you are doing.
19:36:59 From Debby to Everyone:
Love and Thanks to you all xx
19:37:05 From Jamie Sermon to Everyone:
Thank you so much. So glad I could tune in. (Can we keep this forum to this time in future?) Have a great time in Mexico! 🌹
19:37:06 From Susan Salmon to Everyone:
Thanks so much to you all! x
19:37:07 From Geoff Dack to Everyone:
Many thanks to all for another illuminating Q&A.
19:37:10 From maurice mogard to Everyone:
Happy Easter – Thanks for the session
19:37:16 From Sue Wallwork to Everyone:
Thank you to you all. x