Pathfinder Members’ Briefing and Q&A – May 2023

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00:18:29 susan salmon: my daughter the same No one asked for anything!
00:18:43 Domini’s iPhone 13: My unvaccinated husband has been going in and out of the US for almost 6 months, never a problem.
00:18:43 Melissa Smith: Excellent Susan!
00:18:55 Suzanna E: He’s amazing!
00:19:14 Melissa Smith: Speaking Naturally with Jonathan Emord – https://www.anhinternational.org/news/speaking-naturally-with-jonathan-emord-esq/
00:19:15 Meleni Aldridge: He is amazing. A really good friend so it was wonderful to spend more time with him.
00:19:42 Melissa Smith: “My unvaccinated husband has been going in and out of the US for almost 6 months, never a problem.”
How much was fearmongering…
00:21:03 Suzanna E: Happy birthday!
00:21:20 Sally: Looking healthy!
00:24:07 Melissa Smith: Nobel Prize Summit on rebuilding trust in science – https://www.nobelprize.org/events/nobel-prize-summit/2023/#tab-content/
00:24:20 Suzanna E: WHO and IHR trying to implement terrifying new laws to remove sovereignty of each country.
00:24:35 Melissa Smith: Nobel Summit runs from 24th – 26th May
00:25:03 Paraschiva Florescu: Yes Suzanna we are looking into the IHR amendments and the new Treaty and the implications of these!
00:25:33 Meleni Aldridge: Here’s our latest article on it: https://www.anhinternational.org/news/the-plan-for-who-supremacy-over-human-health/
00:26:42 Suzanna E: Did anyone follow International COVID Summit III in Brussels that just took place?
00:27:41 Suzanna E: “Yes Suzanna we are looking into the IHR amendments and the new Treaty and the implications of these!“
Good! All eyes on their Machivellian manoeuvres!
00:27:48 Melissa Smith: International Covd Summit – https://www.internationalcovidsummit.com/
00:28:33 Irene MacIntyre: David Martin worth a watch. Patents.
00:28:36 Suzanna E: Apathy, fear and convenience are the tools being used against the people
00:29:37 Jennifer: Is it really apathy, or a lack of information getting to the broader population?… ie: the censorship/mainstream media issue??
00:29:58 Paraschiva Florescu: “Is it really apathy, or a lack of information getting to the broader population?… ie: the censorship/mainstream media issue??“
Probably a mixture of many reasons Jennifer 🙂
00:30:26 Wanda Briggs: What can we do here in the UK to stop our government/s from conceding power to WHO
00:30:32 Suzanna E: “Is it really apathy, or a lack of information getting to the broader population?… ie: the censorship/mainstream media issue??”
I know a lot of people who are saturated and don’t want to know anything anymore
00:31:17 Suzanna E: But if the media reported the actual news, of course people would be horrified.
00:31:26 Irene MacIntyre: Think things can get too complicated for some so they feel they have to trust experts
00:31:27 Sally: Yes, and people think it ’s all over….
00:32:18 Jennifer: # Irene – I think that is unfortunately a big part of it!
00:32:20 Melissa Smith: Often people know but ‘choose’ not to see what’s happening. Known as wilful blindness. People need to belong. Being a part of the out group is very difficult for most.
00:32:46 Paraschiva Florescu: Replying to “What can we do here …”
What can we do here in the UK to stop our government/s from conceding power to WHO
At least start and encourage discourse and debate amongst the public, media, governments/politicians.. there is still time to get out of it or just reject the amendments. It’s important to make people aware of the implications of these if they go ahead!
00:33:45 Suzanna E: Just want to say RFK for president!
00:33:49 Ann Charles: Question re IVM. I have just got a bad throat and bit of a cold. Is it a good idea to take IVM for a few days to shake it off – once a twice a day? Or is IVM less valid now? I’ve had C…D once
00:34:01 Melissa Smith: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inescapable-Immune-Escape-Pandemic-ebook/dp/B0BW2HW731
00:34:46 Suzanna E: Totally agree. This is a carefully calibrated psychological operation on the global population
00:35:06 Dian Shepperson: Behaviour science seen to be better than the science of immunology ?
00:35:43 Jennifer: # Suzanna – Ditito that… and I hope RFK has a powerful Guardian Angel on his side!!
00:35:45 Kate Cook: It’s that the area of attack is so wide from health, to environment – so it is knowing where to focus?
00:36:23 Suzanna E: “# Suzanna – Ditito that… and I hope RFK has a powerful Guardian Angel on his side!!”
Yes, otherwise there’s a bullet with his name on it!
00:36:55 Kate Cook: Was that the WHO objection or the Vax that “cancelled” him
00:37:05 Sally: It’s their desperation..somejow
00:37:12 Suzanna E: Rodger Water “anti-semitic” too!
00:38:06 Melissa Smith: Dr Bhakdi’s hearing is on the 23rd May – https://doctors4covidethics.org/timeline-of-the-events/
00:38:44 Kate Cook: That’s us, the group here! Absolute a hard NO!
00:39:11 Jennifer: Someone made a comment recently, that you would be better off called a pedophile than an anti-vaxxer or an anti-semitic!! Sad state of our current world!!
00:39:35 Kate Cook: How do you think Kennedy will do in the US?
00:39:57 Ann Charles: Andrew B has now joined the Reclaim Part (Lawrence Fox). I would have preferred he joined the Heritage Party.
00:41:16 Suzanna E: How do you think Kennedy will do in the US?
RFK wants to separate corporate interests from government interests. That is a popular idea. He has his name behind him. Social media is the only hope he will have of exposure though.
00:42:01 Melissa Smith: Ioannidis paper – https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124
00:42:54 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, the current view that we can see in the US is that RFK doesn’t stand a chance – but that’s what was said about his father too. If nothing else, he gets to speak freely for 18 mths, but his message will need to be carried by the alt media and individuals networking hard. The MSM is bought and paid for as you well know.
00:43:12 Jennifer: # Kate… If there was any chance of legitimate and fair elections anywhere in the Western World – Kennedy would be a shoe-in, amongst the general population, but I do think they are all manipulated today!!
00:44:36 Melissa Smith: IPAK edu site – https://ipak-edu.org/
00:45:03 Ann Charles: RE RFK Jn, I cannot imagine the Democrats letting him in although possibly he will be the only hope for them otherwise I’m sure the election will go to the Republicans. Surely America has had enough..
00:45:08 Meleni Aldridge: It would appear that Trump is way ahead in the polls at the moment and it would be a landslide if there was a free and fair election right now. The question really for all of US voting is if they can rectify the voter fraud issue – which of course ‘doesn’t exist’ and is another conspiracy theory!
00:45:29 Suzanna E: According to Natural News “RFK Jr. tied with Biden in primary poll, 20% of Democrats say they’d vote for Kennedy or Trump over Biden”
00:45:29 Dian Shepperson: Depressing
00:45:49 Irene MacIntyre: RFK getting interviewed a lot by podcasters who have huge audiences. He will have little chance getting selected by Democrats but he then could run as an Independent if the popular vote is growing.
00:46:01 Dian Shepperson: Bio tech
Nano tech
Crispr
00:46:39 Irene MacIntyre: That’s so depressing
00:46:44 Dian Shepperson: Hydroponics no manganese
00:47:13 Suzanna E: Tucker Carlson interviewed RFK – maybe why he got removed!
00:47:14 Dian Shepperson: Study of anti biol anti chem anti nature
00:47:22 Kate Cook: I was listening to some lecture (on line) – it might have been the EU conference, they said Science has been hijacked by technology..
00:48:40 Jennifer: I think the more we ignore Nature… Nature will give us all our come-uppance!!! And sometimes I both fear and hope that may happen (as a last resort)!!
00:50:17 Kate Cook: Don’t “they” want to kill us all off.. fertility reduction is the Eugenists “happy place” – Sorry what are they putting in the cupcakes???
00:50:28 Suzanna E: How do cupcakes reduce fertility?!
00:50:49 Meleni Aldridge: I think it’s just the gluten and the coeliac effect.
00:51:03 Kate Cook: Or the sugar?
00:51:27 Meleni Aldridge: Both drive massive inflammation and are a foundation to chronic disease.
00:51:29 Paraschiva Florescu: And maybe if they’ll be using vegan spreads – the seed oils as well and trans fats!!
00:51:54 Kate Cook: or they are putting something in the cupcake..like fertility blockers
00:52:02 Rob Verkerk PhD: Club of Rome production suggests drop of global population to 6 billion by 2100 – it could even bet lower than this if trends continue: https://www.livescience.com/worlds-population-could-plummet-to-six-billion-by-the-end-of-the-century-new-study-suggests
00:52:46 Kate Cook: That is why we can’t hand the land to the nutters like Bill Gates…
00:53:01 Irene MacIntyre: Especially when we are still building houses on prime agri land
00:53:37 Suzanna E: Apart from drop in population, we also have a very ill and incapacitated population to look forward to
00:55:15 Kate Cook: And all the scrub and tundra which can be farmed with animals (and improve soil through poop) they are trying to get rid of animals.. they are totally out of control
00:56:18 Meleni Aldridge: It is totally out of control but if you are focused on a future powered by technology and AI, all this natural stuff is just an irritation created by the useless eaters…
00:57:58 Jennifer: I think Bill Gates is the most evil monster of his generation and descendant of his evil mentors. And his alliance with Fauci was the nail in the humanitarian coffin!!
00:58:13 Melissa Smith: https://catholicherald.co.uk/as-fertility-rate-plummets-in-catholic-italy-what-hope-is-left-for-west/
00:58:58 Kate Cook: But now they can cure cancer with all those mRNA vaccine!!! YIKES
00:58:59 Rob Verkerk PhD: https://naviauxlab.ucsd.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/cell_danger_response.pdf
01:00:12 Philippa Worsley: Is anyone here knowledgable about cancer. I have just heard of a lady who is stage 4 breast cancer. I am aware of Dr Robert Lyon’s work using nano particles of oxygen – he is based in Hungary.
01:02:16 helen: Yes to Life are excellent. That’s how I found you guys. A blessing 🙏💕
01:02:19 Meleni Aldridge: Philippa, Yes to Life is a good place for someone with cancer to look if they’re interested in integrative oncology: https://yestolife.org.uk/
01:02:39 Meleni Aldridge: That’s great to know Helen 🙂
01:02:48 Suzanna E: The much maligned GcMaf seems interesting re cancer. Does anyone know much about it?
01:03:12 Philippa Worsley: Thank you
01:03:48 Melissa Smith: Metabolic Terrain Institute of Health – https://mtih.org/
01:04:13 Melissa Smith: Dr Nasha Winters – https://www.drnasha.com/
01:04:13 Yolanda: Replying to “Is anyone here knowl…”
There is a presentation about Kaqun water this weekend by Dr Lyons in London
01:04:25 Philippa Worsley: Replying to “Is anyone here knowl…”
He is fascinating
01:04:25 Meleni Aldridge: GcMaf is made naturally in our bodies, but not in the amounts that are needed during cancer. It’s a game changer, but a complete regulatory nightmare. The people who were making it ended up in jail unfortunately. I’m trying to recall the probiotic product that stimulates the production in the body…
01:05:28 Suzanna E: When Dr Campbell looked at excess mortality figures, interestingly he found that cancer was not one of the causes….
01:05:46 Jennifer: I’d love to know more about GCMaf (from people I know and trust). It seems like one of those genuine and significant therapies like Vit B17 (laetrile) that will be maligned and suppressed by the mainstream!
01:05:51 Suzanna E: A UK doc was put in prison in France for making GCMAF
01:07:19 Suzanna E: Vax Control Group could help know re excess deaths
01:07:25 Meleni Aldridge: He wasn’t a dr, but his partner was the chemist that was making it and she went to prison too.
01:08:04 Suzanna E: He wasn’t a dr, but his partner was the chemist that was making it and she went to prison too.
Yes – David … can’t remember his surname!
01:08:41 Suzanna E: https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/gcmaf-and-persecution-david-noakes-lyn-thyer-immuno-biotech
01:08:47 Suzanna E: David Noakes
01:08:49 Irene MacIntyre: Was Luc Montaigne right with saying aids and malaria were in the dna?
01:09:06 Yolanda: Replying to “Is anyone here knowl…”
Yes, he is. 💪
01:09:14 Melissa Smith: https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
01:10:32 Jennifer: I think a big part of the problem is that most regulators are just NOT recording JAB status against general death statistics. They are deliberately hiding the jab issues….
01:11:11 Wanda Briggs: Are autopsies still not being done?
01:11:50 Meleni Aldridge: No, I don’t think they are as standard unless they’re requested – but not sure how far that gets here on the NHS.
01:12:19 Suzanna E: Not FOR breast cancer, but prevention of breast cancer Kefir (and green tea) appears to have effectivity https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28956261/
01:12:30 Dian Shepperson: USA have stopped the use of Pfizer and Moderna jabs last week
01:13:01 Melissa Smith: They’ve stopped the use of the monovalent jabs in favour of the bivalent ones developed to combat omicron.
01:13:09 Kate Cook: Just got to flit off to a brief meeting, but if you are still here, might be able to rejoin .. should only be 15 mins or so.. if not, very interesting..
01:13:27 Meleni Aldridge: OK Kate. We’re here for another 30 mins.
01:13:44 Suzanna E: Are autopsies still not being done?
Interesting on that subject https://philipmcmillan.substack.com/p/vaccinated-covid-19-autopsy-overview
01:14:16 Melissa Smith: Thanks Suzanna
01:14:29 Meleni Aldridge: Melissa has managed to find it – https://healthbuyerclub.com/collections/weight-loss/products/bravo-probiotic-yogurt-13-week-kit-300-probiotic-strains
Have a look at the Bravo products if you’re interested in GcMaf.
01:14:46 Meleni Aldridge: https://synergisticnutrition.com/bravo-probiotic-gcmaf-suppositories-12-bullets.html
01:15:33 Yolanda: Replying to “Melissa has managed …”
Thank you 😊
01:15:56 Bobby Teague: People’s Heath Alliance is being set up. Kathy McBean
01:16:02 Jennifer: Coming into winter here in Aus, the Government have massively upped the anti on promoting booster jabs (in addition to flu jabs) – it’s horrifying and disgusting!!
01:16:20 Melissa Smith: https://www.anhinternational.org/news/the-plan-for-who-supremacy-over-human-health/
01:16:49 Suzanna E: How can we protest/challenge this?
01:16:54 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, they did that here too Jennifer. So sad to see how many line up searching for protection.
01:17:39 Suzanna E: But like the Reiner Fuellmich stuff – it seems to go nowhere!
01:18:03 Melissa Smith: I was speaking to someone the other week who knows an older gentleman who’s about to have his 11th jab!
01:18:42 Suzanna E: I was speaking to someone the other week who knows an older gentleman who’s about to have his 11th jab!
Wow! How did you respond!
01:19:19 Melissa Smith: Not much to say really. The person I was speaking to thought it was bonkers as well. He challenged it but the guy didn’t want to hear any cautions.
01:19:50 Suzanna E: Not much to say really. The person I was speaking to thought it was bonkers as well. He challenged it but the guy didn’t want to hear any cautions.
Best of luck to him!!!
01:19:54 Jennifer: From what I’ve read of the WHO leader, I think he was selected for the role (possibly by Gates) because of his total lack of any humanitarian conscience!!
01:20:25 Suzanna E: RFK!!
01:20:47 Philippa Worsley: I am at a loss to get people to see this – have you any ideas. I just get pushback saying ‘oh that won’t happen here’
01:21:20 Irene MacIntyre: Klaus Schwab proud to have been involved in China for past 30 years. Says it all
01:21:21 Paraschiva Florescu: Replying to “From what I’ve read …”
From what I’ve read of the WHO leader, I think he was selected for the role (possibly by Gates) because of his total lack of any humanitarian conscience!!
Yes and if you look at what he’s done in Ethiopia you will see a pattern with how similar that is to what he is wanting to do with the WHO Pandemic Treaty and IHR!! Giving him supreme power that will lead to abuses of this power and causing so much harm!
01:21:44 Ann Charles: From memory UK Col has a discussion panel on IHR Treaty and Regulations. Think its 7pm this Friday but not sure if it is live generally or 4 members then later for general public.
01:22:21 Dian Shepperson: EU? OZ ? NZ ?
01:22:31 Meleni Aldridge: It’ll be UK time.
01:23:29 Melissa Smith: Bystander effect – Staub. https://www.anhinternational.org/news/why-heroic-bystanders-are-needed-to-extract-us-from-the-era-of-dissonance/
01:23:38 Suzanna E: I am at a loss to get people to see this – have you any ideas. I just get pushback saying ‘oh that won’t happen here’
Very difficult. I don’t know! The unvaccinated sense the vulnerability of freedom because they were exposed to it while others didn’t even notice
01:25:00 Suzanna E: Where are all the demonstrations against this?
01:25:45 Eric Marshall: Thanks for helpful session. we now have to go
01:25:50 Meleni Aldridge: Welcome back Kate 🙂
01:25:59 Jennifer: Someone of FLCCC suggested Ed Dowd’s book “Cause Unknown” to convince others… I haven’t read that one yet (and not sure how you’d get those “others” to read a whole book… but any thoughts from anyone who has read it?
01:26:13 LEANNE (J): There’s a brilliant book on David and Golliath strategies…
01:27:09 Melissa Smith: “Someone of FLCCC suggested Ed Dowd’s book “Cause Unknown” to convince others… I haven’t read that one yet (and not sure how you’d get those “others” to read a whole book… but any thoughts from anyone who has read it?”
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cause-Epidemic-Sudden-Childrens-Defense/dp/1510776397
01:27:16 Dian Shepperson: Battered child avoiding the world? The boy, the mole, the horse’?
01:28:00 Suzanna E: Will the MSM cover the WHO amendments at all?
01:28:09 Melissa Smith: There’s a brilliant book on David and Golliath strategies…
https://core-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/asset/uploaded_file/222892/david-and-goliath.pdf
01:29:03 Suzanna E: I know it’s a big subject but any ideas for a 15 year old girl whose thyroid tests are out of whack? She tried the peptides but no immediate change
01:29:27 Melissa Smith: How bad is my batch – https://www.howbad.info/
01:29:49 Suzanna E: Russian roulette with the batches
01:30:21 LEANNE (J): Replying to “There’s a brilliant …”
Got it on order!
01:30:42 Rob Verkerk PhD: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8492451/
01:31:58 Kate Cook: Presumably though, the data for How Bad is My batch, is based on VAERS data .. (so, we don’t have the batch deets for UK)
01:32:01 Jennifer: Do you think the variation in the MRNA batches was just bad QC or deliberate???
01:32:14 Meleni Aldridge: Suzanna, do you know which thyroid tests she’s had? It’s a huge area and the thyroid is pretty much the early warning system on the body as it’s in charge of so much. Can be indicating so many different things, including autoimmune issues. The peptides may help the thyroid itself, but unless the foundational causes are found and turned off, it’s still going to be showing dysfunction.
01:32:30 Suzanna E: Replying to “Presumably though, t…”
Presumably though, the data for How Bad is My batch, is based on VAERS data .. (so, we don’t have the batch deets for UK)
It’s Uk I think it was Imperial or King’s college
01:33:31 Melissa Smith: Replying to “Presumably though, t…”
All the data for the How bad is my batch site is sourced from VAERS – so US not UK data.
01:33:45 Jennifer: UNsafe and Ineffective… actually downright dangerous and deadly!!!
01:33:45 LEANNE (J): My mom died. Blood pressure complications after surgery. She had one Pfizer and said asked me a question… she said three weeks after she felt a pain (could cancer enter her lung???) exactly where she was diagnosed after few months later… she died Jan 23
01:34:54 Jennifer: So Sorry to hear that Leanne…
01:34:55 Melissa Smith: Very sorry to hear about your Mum Leanne.
01:35:00 Dian Shepperson: From June all UK children over 6 months old will be invited to have a jab
01:35:33 LEANNE (J): Yes blood pressure complications with neighbour 3 x vaccines cancer surgery too
01:35:39 Suzanna E: Replying to “Suzanna, do you know…”
Suzanna, do you know which thyroid tests she’s had? It’s a huge area and the thyroid is pretty much the early warning system on the body as it’s in charge of so much. Can be indicating so many different things, including autoimmune issues. The peptides may help the thyroid itself, but unless the foundational causes are found and turned off, it’s still going to be showing dysfunction.
01:35:39 Meleni Aldridge: Oh Leanne, I’m so sorry to hear this.
01:36:13 LEANNE (J): Mom said she felt it!!!
01:36:14 Suzanna E: Replying to “Suzanna, do you know…”
I am thinking she shouldn’t continue with peptides….
01:36:52 trish appleton: Any news on reactions to the recent damning Perseus report on their massive failures of the MHRA as “regulators ? A hard copy was apparently sent to every single MP.
01:39:12 Jennifer: Well done Rob and team!!
01:39:18 Philippa Worsley: I do have another question… is there a charity set up yet for the vaccine injured?
01:40:59 Meleni Aldridge: Trish, no news on any reactions as yet! I’m sure it’ll be quietly attempted to just sweep it all under the carpet.
01:42:17 Suzanna E: Replying to “Suzanna, do you know…”
Thyroid Peroxidase Antibody
Thyroxine binding globulin are the affected numbers
01:42:40 Ann Charles: https://www.publicchildprotectionwales.org/ – they are doing amazing work on the transgender issue in school children.
01:43:52 Dian Shepperson: Neil Oliver interviews one lady on GB news
01:43:58 Philippa Worsley: I run a charitable trust and money has to go to a charity with a charitable reg number
01:44:14 Suzanna E: UK Covid Family I think it’s called and React
01:44:19 Dian Shepperson: Who runs the charity with 10000s members
01:44:51 Rob Verkerk PhD: Suzanne – you may be referring to https://react19.org/
01:45:07 Jennifer: # Ann… that’s another massive issue we are facing for our next generation of kids. Frightening!!
01:45:52 Kate Cook: And the Self Care Revolution! See Rob speak (it is for NTs) 17th June : )
01:45:53 Jennifer: Is anyone on the ANH Forum going to The Better Way Conference in Bath?
01:46:01 Ann Charles: Ivermectin? still good to take for flu? even though its supposed to be gone?
01:46:17 Suzanna E: Replying to “Is anyone on the ANH…”
Hoping to go!
01:46:20 Melissa Smith: https://www.ipmcongress.com/
01:46:26 Ann Charles: what conference Melissa?
01:46:42 Melissa Smith: Integrative & Personalised Medicine Congress
01:47:05 Philippa Worsley: Where is this Kate
01:47:06 Ann Charles: Melissa where is it on?
01:47:20 Paraschiva Florescu: https://www.ipmcongress.com/ this is the link for it 🙂
01:47:27 Melissa Smith: The Self-care revolution – https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-self-care-revolution-regenerate-renew-refresh-tickets-593697393887?aff=ebdssbcitybrowse
01:47:36 Melissa Smith: Melissa where is it on?
Central London.
01:47:59 Melissa Smith: Near Tunbridge Well in Kent.
01:48:07 Kate Cook: Get in touch with admin@the-nutrition-network.com – its Starborough Manor, Kent, 17th June(£30 or £50 for 2)
01:48:27 Kate Cook: sorry ADMIN (not info)
01:48:50 Jennifer: My “Aunt” lives in Tunbridge Wells!!!
01:48:56 Kate Cook: Thanks Melissa!
01:48:59 Meleni Aldridge: Well there’s your reason for a visit!!
01:49:10 Melissa Smith: One of my favourite places. I lived there when I was young for a while.
01:49:33 Suzanna E: Thank you again dear ANH team – it is so vitally important the work that you. I am in perpetual awe of your amazingness and deeply appreciate your creating this valuable community.
01:49:35 susan salmon: Thanks so much to you all for another wonderful session
01:50:00 Meleni Aldridge: ❤️❤️❤️
01:50:02 helen: Thank you so much ❤️
01:50:25 Wanda Briggs: Thanks again for great and informative content.
01:50:30 Philippa Worsley: Thank you so much
01:50:31 Jan Glen: Many thanks