Pathfinder Members’ Briefing and Q&A – July 2023

As always, it was brilliant to see everyone who was able to join us for this month’s Members’ Briefing and Q&A, which we held a little earlier than normal so we could include Rob, before his much needed break. Although, we’re not entirely sure just how relaxing riding up the Stelvio Pass is!

We had a fabulous session with topics ranging from the threat of PFAS contamination, news of a new upcoming MSc in Psychoneuroimmunology, covid jab batch safety to the new Health Card from the Control Group plus more.

So make yourself comfy, put your feet and dive in. If you have any questions following the discussion do please email the team on info@anhinternational.org.

Have a wonderful Summer and we’ll see you on the other side on September 21st at 6pm.

Join the conversation!

Zoom chat

00:03:50 Sally: Where did you get your earrings from? (!)
00:05:52 Robert Verkerk: My sister’s website; https://www.wirejewellery.co.uk/
00:06:48 Robert Verkerk: My brother’s website!! Amazing Dutch documentary film maker – latest one on soil: https://emsfilms.com/over-ons/
00:11:06 Cori: So good to be with you. I totally agree with Robert.
And see the FAO Director, now intoxicating Africans apparently over 100 Min intoxications by pesticides…..
00:11:20 Melissa Smith: PFAS study – https://www.anhinternational.org/news/anh-usa-study-finds-forever-chemicals-in-kale/
00:12:00 Dian Shepperson: Book, ‘Environmental Impacts on Reproductive Health and Fertility’ Cambridge Medicine.
Tracey Woodruff, Sarah Jansen, Louis Guillette
, inda Giudice
00:12:16 Cori: correction: Over 100 Millions of Africans
00:12:20 Paraschiva Florescu: Thanks for sharing Dian 🙂
00:12:43 morag: so no need for supermarkets to label fruit and veg then? wondered why not seeen labels yet
00:13:15 Dian Shepperson: Aeroplane trails in the sky?
00:13:31 morag: any progress on your water filter you are working on?
00:14:16 Peter Wilhelmsson: The tragedy is also that doctors and conventional Health practitioners are not taught that you can and how to continually help clear out toxins in individuals, Groups and communities!!! People and Health professionals seem to be deaf to it or feel like victims where nothing can be done!!
00:14:19 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, Morag, we’re waiting for them to arrive in the UK, but the testing won’t be underway till late August.
00:14:27 Dian Shepperson: Silent Spring, Rachel Carson
00:14:43 morag: great, look forward to update, thanks Mel
00:14:57 Dian Shepperson: The Feminisation of Nature, Deborah Cadbury
00:15:43 Peter Wilhelmsson: You have reached a high level of Stillness, Mel–congrats!
00:15:56 Dian Shepperson: Our Stolen Future, Theo Colburn
All books which explain the toxic environmental chemicals problems since the 1960s
00:16:06 morag: wow, interesting
00:16:12 Caroline Sherwood: Replying to “You have reached a h…”

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00:16:22 Melissa Smith: Thanks for sharing some great resources Dian
00:17:09 morag: thanks Mel, would defo like to try
00:17:56 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “You have reached a h…”
I wish Peter!! A mission very much in progress 😆
00:18:14 Suzannah: Would love to try it.
00:20:20 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Life is more, deeper than energy
00:20:41 DONNA Lowe: @Meleni Aldridge I would love to know more about the PNEI Masters 😊
00:20:43 Caroline Sherwood: “We are stardust…we are golden…”
00:21:10 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, we are Caroline. Divine stardust.
00:21:35 Dian Shepperson: Light
Air
Water
Input of all things which create energy
Vitamins, minerals, trace elements
00:21:36 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Energy – etymology – in work. Protestant work ethic x
00:21:48 Suzannah: We are the stuff that stars (dreams) are made of
00:22:41 Meleni Aldridge: Donna, we’ll be releasing information on the CPNI Masters as soon as we have it. I don’t know how I’m going to magic the time needed, but I’m definitely doing it!
00:23:28 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Is this beautiful diagram on the website?
00:23:31 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “Energy – etymology -…”
Definitely share your work ethic here Nicola 😄
00:23:47 Paraschiva Florescu: Not yet Nicola it’s still in progress but it will be once it’s finalised!
00:23:50 Meleni Aldridge: It’s not on the website yet, but it will be – hopefully after our newsletter next week.
00:24:10 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Looking forward to it
00:24:15 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Beautiful
00:25:18 Cori: Yes – beautiful picture !!
00:25:21 Meleni Aldridge: I’m so glad you see that and not the complexity – but then I know you’re well versed in grappling with complexity 😉
00:25:51 Caroline Sherwood: It would be great to be able to buy this picture as a poster.
00:26:14 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, that’s a great idea. Thank you! We can certainly make it a poster.
00:27:08 Caroline Sherwood: Replying to “Yes, that’s a great …”
With ANH contact details in one corner…?
00:27:28 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “Yes, that’s a great …”
Yes, and all our copyright info.
00:27:54 Caroline Sherwood: Replying to “Yes, that’s a great …”

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00:29:07 Peter Wilhelmsson: Great message, infographic and vision of sustainable Health with Connection, Learning and cooperation with nature!
00:29:43 Robert Verkerk: Thanks Peter 💚
00:31:28 Melissa Smith: Leo Priumbaum – Intermittent Living – https://intermittentliving.com/
00:33:27 Melissa Smith: Link to batch dependent safety of covid jab study – https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13998
00:34:15 Cori: Batch-dependent safety of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine
Max Schmeling, Vibeke Manniche, Peter Riis Hansen
First published: 30 March 2023
00:34:45 Bridget Harper: I was horrified to hear today on mainstream about the use of pharmaceuticals and in particular psychedelic drugs to treat depression and PTSD in the future.. Any thoughts on this?
00:35:54 Cori: John Campbell about the Paper:
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwL4HLvHEcI
Viral Vaccine paper
2.Interview with Dr. Vibeke Manniche:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgldG9r-i9M
Viral vaccine paper, Dr Vibeke Manniche
00:36:13 Melissa Smith: Jessica Rose discusses the yellow dot/lot placebo theory – https://jessicar.substack.com/p/debunking-the-yellow-dot-lot-placebo
https://jessicar.substack.com/p/is-the-placebo-story-a-distraction
00:38:52 Kate Cook: the yellow batch was probably about batch control, you think, Rob?
00:40:13 Cori: @Kate: we still don’t know, what adds to the yellow line, as the question is, if AEs would be reported and linked to vaccination
00:40:26 Meleni Aldridge: Bridget, I’ve not heard the reports today, but psychedelic drugs have been used for quite some time now with PTSD under very tight controls and with only specifically trained health professionals. I believe, with some very good results. I think I’m right in saying that this is how LSD came about in the first place. Personally, I feel there are a wide range of strategies that could be employed before needing drugs – pharmaceutical or otherwise – but sometimes the situation is so acute that some additional support is needed. But still, there are many other viable strategies to be used to help people with depression and PTSD!
00:40:53 Meleni Aldridge: Thanks Cori, very useful links.
00:41:06 Marianne Rist: The government response to petitions is that the increased deaths have nothing to do with the vaccines
00:41:14 Nicola Graves-Gregory: As well as chemical, global experiment – also E-M
00:42:07 Peter Wilhelmsson: Question: People are waking up to the threat of AI and ChatGPT . It has hit the news now recently because of strikes by U.S. screen writers and actors due to take over of much of their work by avatars, AI,etc. Of course all areas of education and society will be hit by this AI take over. Medical and Health articles can even more easily be flooding media with main stream and conventional messaging, ignoring natural-, integrative- and sustainable solutions and letting AI learn and spew ut the conventional info based on what studies they are designed to learn. Like the success of the threat of PFAS, the threat of AI controlled society may be a good wave to surf to Wake up some Groups and connect to people who are weary of a AI controlled future, even more concentrating the Power of the few over the many.
00:42:34 Kate Cook: Do you think that the causation is obscured on purpose or is that just the useful (to them) consequence ?
00:42:38 Bridget Harper: Thanks Mel, I definitely advocate other strategies before going down pharma routes as a matter of routine!
00:42:50 morag: thanks for interesting info Rob. Frightening and more so given the Observer article you referred to in recent news update re pharma and NHS
00:43:31 Marianne Rist: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/639085?reveal_response=yes
00:43:52 Marianne Rist: this was about excess deaths
00:46:49 Meleni Aldridge: Bridget, Melissa’s just found this link to some of the ground breaking work on Psilocybin in Australia. It may be what you’re referencing. Some of this work is very encouraging with natural compounds and Indigenous tribes have been using natural psychedelics since the beginning for so much from medicine to trance journeying.
https://news.sky.com/story/australia-becomes-first-country-to-legalise-medical-psychedelics-12913218
00:47:13 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Link to 4 of 5 studies re homeopathy, please
00:48:11 Melissa Smith: Replying to “Link to 4 of 5 studi…”
All the links are in this article Nicola – https://www.anhinternational.org/2017/05/03/the-push-back-against-those-attacking-homeopathy-gathers-steam/
00:48:39 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Thanks Melissa x x x
00:48:49 Kate Cook: Chat Type AI will be the Oracle and that is what people believe, we be “burning” the library of Alexandria (so to speak)
00:49:29 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Big Brother Watch – great group of young people defending feedom
00:49:41 Dian Shepperson: What about theWHO digital passport plan?
00:49:47 Melissa Smith: BBW’s doing some great work Nicola.
00:51:08 Melissa Smith: New Control Group website – https://vaxcontrolgroup.com/
00:53:40 Marianne Rist: What if you were to loose your Health ID card?
00:53:51 Cori: What is an ID-bracelet?
00:54:03 Robert Verkerk: These dog loving people make great ID bracelets – I have Vaccine Exempt – Allergy as one of my lines of data
00:54:12 Robert Verkerk: https://www.roadid.com/
00:54:32 Cori: Thank you Robert
00:55:10 Dian Shepperson: Many doctors may just totally ignore your personal wishes
00:57:02 Dian Shepperson: And that cost my parents £2000 to have their wishes ignored
00:57:39 Dian Shepperson: We had power of attorney for my mother . Just trampled over
00:58:53 Meleni Aldridge: Do you have any comeback Dian? I think for many it’s too late and too expensive to fight the system.
00:59:08 Melissa Smith: Ethics articles:
https://www.anhinternational.org/news/feature-medical-ethics-our-best-chance-of-restoring-distorted-health-systems/
https://www.anhinternational.org/news/launch-anh-reframes-ethics-for-the-therapeutic-relationship/
00:59:27 Bridget Harper: I’ve got an advanced decision, which hopefully wont be ignored!!!
00:59:32 Peter Wilhelmsson: Due to their ethical and religious concerns on blood transfusions and cards of choice in their wallets, the Jehovahs Witnesses have been able to stand up for their rights and personal choices plus advice to doctors on operating with alternatives to blood tranfusions. Maybe they are a good Group to learn from and work with because they want the right to choose.
01:00:26 Meleni Aldridge: Thanks Peter, you’re right. It’s a good reminder. I know they get a lot of dispensation because it’s a religion, but a person’s rights and desires should be just as important.
01:04:16 Kate Cook: Wasn’t that McGreggor (he of The Salt Consensus Group) he was getting a bob or two (probably) or he just “believed” in salt reduction, not sure which !
01:05:23 Meleni Aldridge: I think it’s always a good idea to ‘follow the money’! They’ve usually all had a bob or two to take a certain line that doesn’t always make good health sense!
01:07:02 Melissa Smith: ANH articles on the Pandemic Treaty:
https://www.anhinternational.org/search?t=0&s=pandemic+treaty
01:08:07 Paraschiva Florescu: https://www.anhinternational.org/news/the-plan-for-who-supremacy-over-human-health/
01:08:38 Robert Verkerk: https://apps.who.int/gb/wgihr/
01:10:14 Melissa Smith: They’re still banging the avian flu drum – https://www.who.int/news/item/12-07-2023-ongoing-avian-influenza-outbreaks-in-animals-pose-risk-to-humans
01:10:15 Marianne Rist: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/635904?reveal_response=yes
01:10:37 Marianne Rist: This is government response to the petition Dr Tess Lawrie
01:10:38 Kate Cook: Even if it is difficult to actual enforce, it will be the lever to pull to convince everyone that it can be enforced ..
01:11:43 Cori: There is a European Citizen Initiative on it s way against any pandemic treaty. Sorry this link is in German, but you might find it : https://report24.news/europaeischer-widerstand-gegen-who-und-totalitarismus-formiert-eu-buergerinitiative/?
01:12:19 Kate Cook: Unknow, except to Billy Boy Gates (ha!)
01:12:40 Melissa Smith: Thanks Cori. This is the Trust and Freedom website – https://euci.info/press-release
01:12:57 Cori: Thank you Melissa !
01:14:05 Kate Cook: Either Luxemburg, or the Vatican (who I think are outside the WHO – any good, Dian? ha! ha!)
01:14:20 Caroline Sherwood: Do we have an update on Dr Mark Trozzi’s tribunal?
01:14:31 Suzannah: Exactly, Meleni!
01:15:19 Melissa Smith: The hearing resumed yesterday. Dr McCullough was due to testify. More info: https://drtrozzi.org/2023/06/13/cpso-v-trozzi-spectacle-begins-today/
01:15:32 Caroline Sherwood: Replying to “The hearing resumed …”

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01:15:45 Melissa Smith: Replying to “The hearing resumed …”
Previously, the CPSO spent two days verbally abusing Dr Trozzi’s expert witness, Deanna McLeod of the Canadian Covid Care Alliance, before one of the panelists quit. The remaining panel then disqualified her.
01:16:06 Caroline Sherwood: Replying to “The hearing resumed …”
Yes, I watched that section of it.
01:16:19 Melissa Smith: Replying to “The hearing resumed …”

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01:17:36 Melissa Smith: An authoritarian law that will allow Police to spy on anyone they choose through the remote activation of the cameras, microphones and GPS of phones and other devices, such as computers, cars and other connected devices, has been given to go ahead by French regulators. The move has been dubbed a ‘snoopers’ charter by its opponents https://bnn.network/world/france/france-to-allow-police-spy-through-phones/
01:18:50 Kate Cook: The UK has been doing that for years (Ref Snowden GCHQ and all..) I have a phone from Activist Tool Kit (who do de-Googled phones, untraceable)
01:18:52 Marianne Rist: France has had the most appalling treatment of health professionals who refused the vaccines, or treated patients with Ivermectin, Azythromycin etc.
01:19:35 Cori: I wonder how the Chinese are also influencing the WHO…. (In the FAO they bought the candidates to step back for the second 4-year-run just now, on July 2nd, and other delegates (governments). Although it was already known how they turned around the FAO in the las 4 years. Also the FAO is part of the „One Health“.
01:19:40 Marianne Rist: Doctors are still being haunted for using these therapies, regardless of the fact that their patients were saved
01:20:13 Marianne Rist: L’Ordre des Médecins was create by Petain
01:20:28 Robert Verkerk: Hence they trying to remove the wording “with full respect for the dignity, human rights and fundamental freedoms of persons” from the IHR
01:21:07 Melissa Smith: DeGoogled phones from Activist toolbox – https://activiststoolbox.com/shop/DeGoogled-Phones-c127688255
01:25:32 Dian Shepperson: In the elderly over 80s some people who undergo less stress being cared for by family it has been seen that their telomeres can lengthen again. USA research
01:27:58 Melissa Smith: Maintrac system – https://www.maintrac.de/en
01:28:40 morag: Mel, some faraday bags for phones reveiwed as not working well/at all. Any advice on a good one at all please?
01:30:19 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Yes, more on Faraday bags, please x
01:30:53 Kate Cook: Ki Science do faraday bags
01:31:01 Meleni Aldridge: Morag, I’ll find the link to the one I bought and send it to you. It’s very effective. Also the faraday boxes to put car keys in as these new keyless entry keys are easy to scan from outside the house and car thieves can buy the equipment for under £40!
01:31:39 morag: thats kind, thank you
01:32:05 Melissa Smith: Defender Shield have a bag. We use Defender Shield for our phone protectors – https://defendershield.com/concealshield
01:32:40 Dian Shepperson: What happens if you just switch you phone off for parts of the day? I don’t do Wi Fi or Bluetooth
01:33:22 Kate Cook: What is the New System on Nat West???
01:33:38 felixhughes: Do you happen to have a link for card wallet
01:33:53 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Nationwide is a building Society bank. I haven’t checked the t&c’s recently
01:34:16 morag: Mum withdrew at a bank recently and had many questions about what the money was for – her money!
01:34:35 Melissa Smith: Search card sleeves rfid on Amazon and you’ll get loads of choice. They’re pretty cheap.
Do you happen to have a link for card wallet
01:34:37 Kate Cook: yes, I go the letter and put it in the too hard pile
01:34:38 Dian Shepperson: Go for Gold
01:35:05 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Nationwide belongs to customers. There are AGM’s
01:35:24 Dian Shepperson: TruVirTu  – Pearl hard card case
01:35:31 Gwyneth: Thank you VERY much Rob, Melanie, Melissa and Para for todays meeting and all you do, it gives me so much positivity. Loved hearing about your veg garden and all your fresh produce. 💚
01:35:41 Kate Cook: For Gold, I am on Tally (not that is a recommendation, but worth looking at?)
01:35:48 morag: have great well deserved holidays. thank you for sane and wise updates
01:35:49 Marianne Rist: Can’t thank you enough for all you are doing, and providing this community of like-minded friends
01:36:05 Melissa Smith: Replying to “Can’t thank you enou…”

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01:36:08 Meleni Aldridge: We love seeing you all and speaking to you each month more than you know! 💓💓
01:36:15 Marianne Rist: Don’t fall off please!!!
01:37:03 Nicola Graves-Gregory: RFK Jr ! x x x
01:37:09 Cori: Thank you so much, Rob, Mel, Melissa, Para also from me. You are just wonderful and I hope you refresh greatly !!!
01:38:03 Kate Cook: You deserve a break Rob, and Mel, Melissa and all ANH team!!
01:38:04 Melissa Smith: Campout website – https://www.campout.live/
01:38:07 susan salmon: Thanks so much for everything xxx
01:38:16 Peter Wilhelmsson: Have a wonderful, refreshing holiday Rob!!! Blessings to you all—keep up the great work! Enjoy the Beauty of summer!
01:38:34 Catherine: See you at Camp Out. Have a good break!
01:38:46 Nicola Graves-Gregory: Big thanks, everyone x x x x
01:39:23 Melissa Smith: 🥰
01:40:23 Cori: All the best for all wonderful people gathering here 💫 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💫