Pathfinder Members’ Briefing and Q&A – February 2024

It was good to connect with everyone who was able to join us for February’s live Members’ Briefing and Q&A.

Topics discussed included Rob’s contribution to the Integrative College of Integrative Medicine’s (ICIM) recent Inflammaging conference in New Orleans. ICIM is proving a worthy alternative to the Institute of Functional Medicine (IFM) for those who might be looking for an alternative option. Rob will share more from the conference in our next newsletter.

Rob and Mel discussed the use of melatonin, which although you can’t buy it in the UK, you can purchase online and have it sent to you for personal use (see chat below), along with the importance of iodine for both male and female health.

The ongoing campaign to install smart meters in every household across the EU and UK came up as we learnt Sweden has already installed smart electric meters in all homes and is now rolling out smart water meters across the country. There are some glimmers of hope though as we hear Octopus Energy in the UK is, for the moment, respecting people’s rejection of a smart meter in their home.

Many people are now experiencing problems with fertility in Western countries and struggling to get pregnant or carry a baby to term. Dian Shepperson (one of our members) and Zakia Mance have a new course starting on Thursday 7th March at 6pm to help anyone wishing to start a family conceive and birth a healthy baby, naturally. Pathfinder members can get a 15% discount when booking the course, either for themselves or loved ones, to learn more.

A question asked by a member, led to a discussion about self-spreading vaccines and how much of a reality and threat they might pose in future.

Put your feet up and dive in for another lively and engaging session. Do check out the Zoom chat below for lots of additional information and links.

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Zoom chat

00:23:00 Rob Verkerk PhD: Here’s the link to ICIM: https://www.icimed.com/
00:23:33 Julie: a question for later. For Christmas my husband and I got a homocysteine test. Not a competition but his reading was 18.4 and mine was 4.89. Needless to say we eat a pretty different diet. Is 18.4 dangerous, could you explain what it means?
00:23:40 Melissa Smith: Link to Dr Brownstein’s website: https://www.drbrownstein.com/
00:24:12 Julie: I’m following Dr Myhill suggestion of 2 drops of iodine in a glass of water each night – is that right?
00:25:32 Melissa Smith: Here’s the Sainsbury’s report: https://www.about.sainsburys.co.uk/~/media/Files/S/Sainsburys/pdf-downloads/futureoffood-10c.pdf
00:26:55 Julie: are they still going to have isles of fruit and veg?
00:27:45 karin elgar: Best to check out your local farmers market and buy from producers dierectly!
00:28:11 Julie: we are farmers, so very worrying
00:28:23 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, Karin, totally agree. We also so support local buying and finding farms and farm shops that you can buy from.
00:28:57 Meleni Aldridge: Julie, I hope that the farmers can organise themselves into making a response as well.
00:32:49 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “I’m following Dr Myh…”
Yes, Julie, but the number of drops depends on the strength of iodine you’re using. Is it a 5% or a 15% Lugols? Dr Brownstein recommends starting at 25 mg and generally taking 50 mg daily unless you have cancer, when he uses doses of 150 – 200 mg. I wouldn’t suggest you go that high without professional assistance, but staying in the range of 25-50 mg daily is ideal. I use a capsule of Lugols rather than the liquid just because it’s easier to work out amount, but the liquid is just fine too.
00:33:55 Melissa Smith: Reset Eating book: https://shop.anhinternational.org/products/reseteating
00:34:35 carolesymons: Is anyone else going to the KPNI conference in Antwerp?
00:34:56 Dian Shepperson: Hydroponic fruit and veg, (with low trace elements ) plus cricket and black fly flour anyone 😯😤😡😭
Variety anyone?
00:35:01 Meleni Aldridge: Rob and I both are – are you going Carole?
00:35:20 Meleni Aldridge: Also Karina Athwal, another practitioner member but not on the call today.
00:36:46 carolesymons: I was thinking about it. Not sure of the best place to stay that is close to the venue. Is it best to fly into Brussels Airport?
00:36:48 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “Hydroponic fruit and…”
It’s quite incredible to me how many people are so removed from nature and food and health that they think that’s A ok to be eating. Although, insects do have high protein levels, but I’m still not feeling that keen…
00:37:38 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “I was thinking about…”
Yes, that’s what Karina is doing. We’re driving tomorrow as we have meetings to go to first. Then it’s an easy train to Antwerp.
00:37:41 Ann Charles: Julie, my understanding is iodine needs its partner selenium to work well. Maybe Meleni /Rob can clarify
00:39:17 Ann Charles: Iv’e not been able to find high dose Melatonin in UK? any links
00:39:54 Melissa Smith: Replying to “Ive not been able to…”
Melatonin is only available on prescription in the UK Ann.
00:40:28 Hilary Martin: Just been told by my energy provider I have to have a smart meter. Have told them I don’t want one. Anyone know our rights or had same problem? ** UPDATE ** Hilary has been successful in getting the installation of a smart meter deferred by her supplier, which is Octopus Energy
00:40:42 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “Ive not been able to…”
Although you can buy on Amazon and you can import for your own use too.
00:40:56 Suzanna: An aside: John Campbell had the psychologist involved with this project on recently and I’m sharing it here for all as it seems like a pretty good idea: https://lighthousedeclaration.org/declaration/
00:41:44 Helen Doyle: Ask your energy provider to provide evidence that their smart meter does not emit EMF that may be harmful to health. They will not be able to do so and certainly won’t put it in writing. They will then leave you alone
00:42:13 Melissa Smith: Replying to “An aside: John Campb…”
Thanks so much for sharing Suzanna.
00:43:22 Rob Verkerk PhD: An example of a UK melatonin online supplier is Biovea: https://www.biovea.com/uk/productlist/results?KW=melatonin&FiltersObject=%7B%22SortValue%22:%7B%7D,%22PageSize%22:%2236%22,%22CompareProducts%22:%5B%5D,%22Brands%22:%7B%7D,%22FormValues%22:%7B%7D,%22PriceRanges%22:%7B%7D,%22Categories%22:%5B%5D,%22objects%22:%5B%5D%7D
00:44:28 Melissa Smith: Iodoral as per Mel’s recommendation: https://bigvits.co.uk/iodoral-high-potency-iodine-potassium-iodide-12-5mg-90-tablets.html
00:45:30 Alison Ledgerwood: They are saying that they are stopping the production of the non-smart meters so I think this is going to be a big problem for the future
00:47:21 Melissa Smith: Trifield TF2 meter: https://www.trifield.com/product/trifield-emf-meter/
00:48:13 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “An aside: John Campb…”
Thanks Suzanna – will take a look.
00:49:09 Ingrid Franzon: But Sweden enforces new meter changes
00:49:20 Wanda Briggs: What about sleeping under a faraday net and can you have an earthing sheet at the same time/
00:49:21 Melissa Smith: They’re actually advertising washing machines that you scan a barcode on with your smartphone now.
00:49:21 Dian Shepperson: Not likely
00:50:14 Suzanna: Where did you get a good faraday bag?
00:50:33 Dian Shepperson: I do not use WiFi or Blue tooth
I have sat inside a Faraday cage
Think I might make my house one
00:50:39 Ingrid Franzon: We are having ours changed tomorrow
00:50:55 Ingrid Franzon: Can you unmute me?
00:51:10 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “I do not use WiFi or…”
It becomes more and more attractive!!
00:51:25 Meleni Aldridge: You are unmuted it would seem.
00:51:30 Melissa Smith: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/03/electric-vehicles-early-adopter-petrol-car-ev-environment-rowan-atkinson
00:51:45 Suzanna: Good for the Black Adder!
00:53:21 Dian Shepperson: Build a faraday cage around the smart meter?
00:53:30 Ann Charles: Some smart meters now look like analogues ones so need to be careful. My meter is old and I have no idea how well it works – is there a way to tell? So even if I buy a new analogue meter, I wonder how that works with the energy co. who owns it……Also need a decent electrician to fit it.. aghh
00:53:45 Wanda Briggs: And smart meters are always plsing
00:54:13 Melissa Smith: Sweden has also reached 100% coverage with the early deployment of automated ‘smart’ meters beginning as far back as 2003. Although these meters didn’t adhere to the same functionality regulations that were introduced in 2014, their rollout happened at a rapid pace. Power company Vattenfall began installing 860,000 smart meters in Swedish homes in order to provide customers with monthly readings. By June 2008, every home had a first generation smart meter installed.

In recent years, Sweden has taken to replacing old smart meters with modern ones, through a partnership between Goteborg Energi and Kamstrup. The rollout will see 275,000 smart meters replaced by the end of 2024, in line with new legislation introduced by the Swedish government.
https://www.tripica.com/blog/smart-meter-deployment-the-impact-on-eu-households
00:54:35 Meleni Aldridge: This is a bit different to mine as mine doesn’t have a window, but the same kind of technology:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01A7JLN7C?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_EH2D5RE8VM2VJPWX8NXY
00:54:36 Dian Shepperson: Roy Riggs visit?
00:55:16 David Lucas: My smart meter never worked so I threw it out but the utility company still sees a reading from my external supply box and thinks I have an internal meter!
00:56:09 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “My smart meter never…”
Excellent David! I wish we could all find a similar circumvention… 😀
00:56:27 Suzanna: I thought Sweden was the only country to recognise EMF sicknesses?
00:56:50 Melissa Smith: Eltel installed around 500,000 meters between 2019 and the end of 2022. Another one million meters will be installed by the end of 2024, when all Swedish properties are required to be equipped with the latest type of smart meter in accordance with government legislation https://www.eltelgroup.com/about-us/case-stories/2023/making-1.5-million-swedish-homes-smarter
00:57:28 Melissa Smith: Bioinitiative website: https://bioinitiative.org/
00:59:58 Dian Shepperson: Hindeberg flight anyone?
01:00:10 Melissa Smith: https://www.businessinsider.com/toyota-hybrid-cars-ev-sales-growth-prius-bz4x-2024-2
01:00:26 Melissa Smith: Toyota is taking advantage of the change to hybrids.
01:00:31 Ingrid Franzon: Found the info. Yes we already have a smart meter. Maybe why I wake up every other hour!!
We get a new WATER-meter tomorrow.
01:00:34 Julie: Please could we have a chat about covid vaccines, so much now in the media about the problems? Feel we are getting somewhere. A friend mentioned her son had fathered a baby 5 years ago but now his partner is on IVF as his sperm have started “swimming the wrong way” (??). She was questioning what had happening in the meantime ie 3 vaccines for him.
01:00:53 Suzanna: Would you say a hydrogen economy a desirable global goal?
01:01:16 Meleni Aldridge: Oh Ingrid, is the water meter also going to be smart??!!
01:01:29 Meleni Aldridge: Do you have a trifield meter?
01:02:16 Ingrid Franzon: What do you know about water meters?
01:02:33 Dian Shepperson: Weight means multi storey car parks can collapse,
Cars sinking into the driveway,
Set on fire in Hong Kong cannot be put out so cremated
01:02:38 Melissa Smith: Apparently, it’s almost impossible to insure Range Rovers now due to the ease they can tap into the mobile phone App used to set them
01:02:41 Julie: Pam Gregory would say it could be the high rate of solar flares at present which are affecting sleep.
01:03:39 Suzanna: Is their a link for that article re Gen Z?
01:03:44 Melissa Smith: 15% discount for pathfinder members on the cost of Dian and Zakia’s course. Here’s the booking link if you know anyone who would be interested: https://anhinternational.mykajabi.com/offers/EbYHE4iC?coupon_code=PATHFINDERFERTILITY
01:03:57 David Lucas: Emerging evidence of major blood clot risks from Covid Vaccine – following Dr John Campbell?
01:04:31 Melissa Smith: Jessica Rose PhD Substack: https://jessicar.substack.com/
01:04:32 Julie: I also read that for men testosterone is dropping because so many women are on the pill, they are not get the signal to be fertile from women ovulating.
01:04:50 Melissa Smith: Is their a link for that article re Gen Z?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13118269/Gen-Z-Brits-demand-employers-offer-IVF-work-benefits.html
01:04:54 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “Would you say a hydr…”
Yes, Suzanna – far preferable. Clean fuel. Better for the environment – not that we buy into the argument that everything is down to carbon!
01:05:11 Hannah Charman: …also oestrogen is being excreted into tap water which isn’t helping.
01:05:27 Suzanna: Replying to “Would you say a hydr…”
👍
01:05:46 Ann Charles: Can you recommend a trifield meter? In the past I have looked at some but not sure which ones are any good
01:06:26 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, Ann, Melissa put a link in the chat a bit further up.
01:06:31 Dian Shepperson: Only 1 pregnant rat was tested
01:06:50 Melissa Smith: Replying to “Can you recommend a …”
Here you are: Trifield TF2 meter: https://www.trifield.com/product/trifield-emf-meter/
01:06:52 Ann Charles: Japan has hydrogen pods similar to the hyperbaric 02 chambers
01:07:26 Melissa Smith: Replying to “I also read that for…”
Study from 2009 on this: https://www.cell.com/trends/ecology-evolution/fulltext/S0169-5347(09)00263-8
01:07:28 Ann Charles: thx Melissa
01:08:32 Suzanna: I think Naomi Wolf has lots on the fertility issue
01:10:27 Melissa Smith: I was told by someone I know that 3/4 women she knows got pregnant following covid shots but then lost the pregnancy. This happened several times to some of them.
01:10:49 Hannah Charman: Berkey water filters apparently remove oestrogen.
01:11:21 Suzanna: I wonder if an unvaccinated woman/man should be concerned about procreating with a vaccinated mate?
01:11:43 Dian Shepperson: They do not seem to grasp or realise that their grandchildren and great grandchildren will become infertile and their genes will die out
01:12:21 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “Berkey water filters…”
Thank you Hannah, will look into this. Will be good to see their data on it.
01:12:26 Dian Shepperson: Meanwhile they will be in nuclear bunkers underground
01:12:34 Julie: maybe we need an unvaccinated dating website?
01:13:05 David Cordes: Thank you all for such a rich conversation! I need to check out for a 3:00 client session.
01:13:07 Suzanna: There is one! I think it is called “injected”..?
01:13:08 Wanda Briggs: Water For Health looks like a good option https://www.water-for-health.co.uk/products/energy-plus-under-sink-water-filter?variant=45056735478058
01:13:12 Meleni Aldridge: That was talked about in a number of circles during the past couple of years. Not such a crazy idea.
01:13:24 Suzanna: Replying to “maybe we need an unv…”
maybe we need an unvaccinated dating website?
There is one! I think it is called “injected”..?
01:13:36 Meleni Aldridge: Bye David! x
01:13:46 Solveig Loretz: It’s key to get water filters in large cities… There is also Berkey filters which enable to remove a lot of heavy metals, bacteria, viruses, chlorine, etc from the pipes, which is not electricity connected, and no I am not on commission 😉but did quite some research…
01:14:09 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “It’s key to get wate…”
Great, thanks!
01:14:19 Ingrid Franzon: I just talked to “FALUN Energy and water” the meters do measure and register – momentarily once a month. He was very understanding of the issue and had recommendations on how to reduce emfs at home nothing new to me but helped me recognize that he understood the problem.
01:14:33 Melissa Smith: There’s a dating website called Unjected for those who rejected covid jabs. https://unjected.com/
01:14:43 Wanda Briggs: Are chem trails an actual thing?
01:14:54 Hannah Charman: How do they prove they’re unvaxxed?
01:15:00 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “I just talked to “FA…”
That’s good news Ingrid. Especially that they’re clearly aware of the problem.
01:15:12 Melissa Smith: Replying to “maybe we need an unv…”
Unjected https://unjected.com/
01:16:17 Melissa Smith: Replying to “How do they prove th…”
Good question!
01:16:34 Hilary Martin: Replying to “maybe we need an unv…”
Thanks Melissa. I wondered if such a thing existed. Wonder how many are on there. Will check it out!
01:17:07 Suzanna: Hydrogen water??
01:17:14 Melissa Smith: Replying to “maybe we need an unv…”
It is an American website. I’m not sure if there’s anything nearer home.
01:17:16 Suzanna: Any thoughts?
01:18:13 Ingrid Franzon: But if you bottle structured water that structure changes too!
01:19:50 Hilary Martin: Replying to “maybe we need an unv…”
As are so many things. Will check its international reach.
01:20:21 Suzanna: Coherence in the body = health
01:21:44 Rob Verkerk PhD: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1254-y
01:21:46 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “Coherence in the bod…”
🌟 Absolutely!
01:22:01 Dian Shepperson: They are also making airborne particle in shops I read
01:22:42 Suzanna: The high Wire’s Jaxen report about these self-spreading vaccines last week is quite alarming
01:23:23 Suzanna: Informed consent is bypassed by this technology
01:23:32 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “Informed consent is …”
Completely.
01:28:38 Suzanna: Transhumans will have advantages over “natural” humans so I can’t see a bifurcation ending well in these bellicose times
01:31:57 Dian Shepperson: Solar flares may well sideline the tech
200+ expected in July alone
01:32:28 Meleni Aldridge: Yes, Dian, the sun is most definitely on our side and raising our vibration and resonance with every flare.
01:33:03 Hannah Charman: I agree – I refuse to let all this bring my vibration down. It’s going to be stormy but I’m sure good will prevail.
01:33:32 Suzanna: I’d like to share this optimism and will work on it! Good always triumphs but only in the long run! – in the meantime I fear we might have to live in hiding from the slaughterbots!😨
01:34:09 Melissa Smith: If anyone would like to join Meleni for the next Intention Circle and you’re not already on the mailing list let me know so I can add you. Next Intention Circle is on Thursday 7th March at 7pm.
01:34:20 Dian Shepperson: We need to buy an island somewhere warm 😁
01:34:42 Rob Verkerk PhD: You are right Suzanna – in the long term. It’s going to be a rough ride these next few years, but we cannot for a millisecond lose sight of the Nirvana we need to head towards 😉
01:35:08 Yolanda: Replying to “We need to buy an is…”
Yes. Good idea 😁
01:35:10 Suzanna: You are right Suzanna – in the long term. It’s going to be a rough ride these next few years, but we cannot for a millisecond lose sight of the Nirvana we need to head towards 😉
❤️
01:35:13 Julie: Astrology said it all was coming x
01:35:26 Hannah Charman: I might not make 7th March but please put me down for the intention circles.
01:35:38 Jane Baldwin: Replying to “We need to buy an is…”
💚☀️💚🏝
01:35:47 Melissa Smith: Replying to “I might not make 7th…”
👍
01:35:58 Solveig Loretz: It’s important to stick together as a community of like-minded people…
01:36:15 Rob Verkerk PhD: Replying to “We need to buy an is…”
I’m in! But probably need a currency other than money to buy it!
01:36:16 Dian Shepperson: Thank you 🍀💫🤞🏻
01:36:36 Julie: Do listen to Pam Gregory the astrologer to lift vibration – she is amazing.
01:37:06 Suzanna: And yes – sticking together is the intention of this https://lighthousedeclaration.org/declaration/
01:37:09 Melissa Smith: Pam Gregory’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PamGregoryOfficial
01:37:39 carolesymons: Will the KPNI conference be recorded and available to purchase?
01:37:58 Meleni Aldridge: I don’t know Carole, but I’ll ask and let you know.
01:38:04 Helen Doyle: Whilst things feel a little heavy and messy and sometimes hopeless, look at all the little new shoots that are coming of amazing new ideas and people creating new ways of doing things, for example the uptake in community food growing and all sorts of new initiatives.
01:38:12 Hannah Charman: Sorry I have to go but it’s been lovely spending time with like minded souls. See you again soon.
01:38:53 Meleni Aldridge: Bye Hannah, see you soon!
01:39:35 carolesymons: Many Thanks Meleni. x
01:39:41 Cori12: HI everybody, could join only now – love and energy to all you wonderful
01:39:53 Helen Doyle: Thank you all for sharing your wisdom and hosting this session. Got to whizz xx
01:40:03 Melissa Smith: Replying to “HI everybody, could …”
Hi Cori, lovely to see you.
01:40:13 Melissa Smith: Bye Helen.
01:40:21 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “Whilst things feel a…”
You’re so right. I’m feeling very up and optimistic and know we have so much to look forward to. There are so many new creative initiatives that involve people working together and with Nature, as well as new structures being created. It’s a good time and all is well, no matter how dire it looks on the news.
01:40:33 Dian Shepperson: Butterflies
01:40:51 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “HI everybody, could …”
👋🏻💓
01:41:14 Solveig Loretz: Replying to “And yes – sticking t…”
Thank you, Suzanna, I just signed it!
01:41:42 Suzanna: Replying to “And yes – sticking t…”
💗
01:41:52 Solveig Loretz: Replying to “And yes – sticking t…”
🙏
01:42:03 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “And yes – sticking t…”
We can put this out too Suzanna.
01:42:53 Suzanna: Replying to “And yes – sticking t…”
👍💗
01:43:34 Meleni Aldridge: Carole, I’ve sent a message asking about the conference and recording. Will let you know when I get an answer.
01:43:58 Peter Wilhelmsson: Of the 9 studies how many showed contamination with DNA fragments?
01:44:22 Melissa Smith: Kevin McKernan’s work: https://osf.io/preprints/osf/mjc97
01:44:54 Cori12: You all might know already: 4 h Hearing https://rumble.com/v4fscbx-what-are-federal-health-agencies-and-the-covid-cartel-hiding-feb.-26.html
What Are Federal Health Agencies and the COVID Cartel Hiding? | Feb. 26
Hearing in Washington Feb 26th with Sen. Ron Johnson
01:45:20 Melissa Smith: Replying to “You all might know a…”
🙏 Cori
01:45:22 Jane Baldwin: 💚🐉💚
01:46:03 Julie: Have a great trip and conference, look forward to hearing all about it next time. Thank you ANH so much, lots of love x
01:46:27 Suzanna: This is an amazing group I am always deeply grateful to be a part of it – may we continue to grow strong together in our truth and combatting the insanity! Thank you as always to the ANH team and to all of you!💗⭐
01:46:48 Meleni Aldridge: Aho Suzanna! We’re so grateful for all of you too! ❤️
01:47:10 Melissa Smith: Health Canada knew about the contamination and dismissed it – https://www.theepochtimes.com/world/exclusive-health-canada-official-deleted-scientists-note-saying-mrna-shots-have-high-level-of-impurity-internal-emails-5593451
01:47:20 Cori12: I doubt if modRNA would EVER get safe
01:47:23 lynda: lovely to see you all, sorry I was late. Thanks so much to you all as always, looking forward to catching up on the recording.💗xxx
01:47:26 Melissa Smith: NHPPA’s Rumble channel: https://rumble.com/c/NHPPA
NHPPA’s Twitter / X channel: https://twitter.com/nhppa
01:47:59 Melissa Smith: Midnight GMT / 7pm ET / 4pm PT
01:48:45 Melissa Smith: Rob discusses Bored Cow in his podcast with Dr Ron Hoffman- https://www.anhinternational.org/news/hoffman-verkerk-dialogue-on-how-to-safeguard-and-protect-natural-health/
01:49:21 Melissa Smith: 92 unknown compounds found in Bored Cow ‘fermed’ milk – https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/bored-cow-synthetic-milk-protein-unknown-compounds/
01:49:28 Wanda Briggs: Thanks again for more enlightenment.
01:50:06 Ally J: Thanks everyone x
01:50:06 Rob Verkerk PhD: Thanks everyone – been so good to connect!
01:50:07 Peter Wilhelmsson: Thanks all for all the valuable info and service of love!
01:50:09 Lucie MInne: Thank you so much very interesting
01:50:19 DONNA Lowe: Thanxxxxxx
01:50:20 Gillie Guy: Thanks all!
01:50:22 Ann Charles: great conversation thanks and love to all. AND I don’t get a good feeling about Malone
01:50:29 Hilary Martin: Thanks to all!
01:50:32 karin elgar: Thank you!
01:50:35 carolbamford: Many thanks
01:50:36 maurice mogard: thanks for all info