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This month’s discussions really put nature at the heart of the conversation. Rob reminded everyone present that the information we share will always be balanced so people can make informed decisions.
We love receiving all your questions but would ask if members could be more general in what they ask, as we can’t answer questions about personal medical issues, but we can talk around topic areas.
As always we had a wide-ranging discussion with subjects ranging from whether methylene blue is all it’s cracked up to be and how safe it is or isn’t. The future co-existence between natural humans and enhanced humans who’ve gone down the route of technological enhancement and the continued separation of humans from nature.
The power of plant polyphenols, The Great Taking on how the banks can take everything if there was a massive financial crash. Cholesterol and natural alternatives to medication. Parasite cleanses. Flu strains and extinction. The Pandemic Agreement, Geoengineering and mosquitoes as disease vectors. Phew! We hope you enjoy this month’s conversation.
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00:21:35 Ann: energy ZERO. Health SYSTEM BREAKING DOWN…..
00:26:36 Melissa Smith: Dr Breggin’s Substack article: https://substack.com/home/post/p-163796874
00:27:19 Ann: I’m def more aligned with Peter Breggin than Malone
00:27:27 Meleni Aldridge: Dr Breggin’s podcast 1: https://www.americaoutloud.news/emergency-notification-for-methylene-blue-its-highly-neurotoxic-to-your-brain-and-mind/
00:27:42 Meleni Aldridge: Podcast 2: https://www.americaoutloud.news/methylene-blue-is-highly-neurotoxic-to-your-brain-and-mind/
00:28:10 Wanda: Just after we last disused methylene blue, Anthony Colpo dissected the evidence on his substack and he was very much against it’s use.
00:28:31 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “energy ZERO. Health …”
Sorry to hear this Ann. I hope you’ve been out enjoying the lovely weather in nature as well.
00:29:22 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “Just after we last d…”
There’s definitely a move towards asking questions about it now which I think is a very good thing as there are many using it daily, probably in too high amounts.
00:30:51 Cori12: DMSO is not toxic but of course handle with care, as it transports „anything“ through the skin
00:35:33 Ann: I bought some MB but never used it….and yes it is pushed by the biohacking lot. I wanted to try it to increase energy but wasn’t game
00:38:26 Ann: what about using Nitric Oxide to boost blood vessel circulation etc.
00:40:39 Cori12: I suspect that „skinny jabs“ (as it hinders motility) could cause SIBO ( bacterial overgrowth ) and irritable bowel syndrome and all what comes with it …. Migrane, intolerances, …….
00:41:07 Melissa Smith: Also creates nutrient deficiencies due to the lack of food. Robbie Williams developed scurvy due to skinny jabs.
00:42:32 Ann: whats the name OF PRODUCT?
00:43:43 Melissa Smith: Morin from Mulberries – https://applbiolchem.springeropen.com/articles/10.1007/s13765-012-2110-9/metrics
00:43:51 Melissa Smith: Replying to “whats the name OF PR…”
Mighty Muscadine
00:44:01 iPadbobby: Question . Do we know if new EU will affect natural health products eg homeopathy regs in Europe? I cannot get homeopathic tinctures from Ireland any more without a prescription
00:46:30 Meleni Aldridge: Sadly Amazon is the only place you can buy this French product and I’ve not seen it in any other supplement in the UK: https://amzn.eu/d/f38JsmL
00:48:06 Cori12: Reacted to “Sadly Amazon is the …” with 👍
00:48:34 Melissa Smith: Blair Foundation report: https://institute.global/insights/public-services/anti-obesity-medications-faster-broader-access-can-drive-health-and-wealth-in-the-uk
00:51:45 Cori12: What has been published by you back in March vom 6.03.2025 https://www.anhinternational.org/news/skinny-jabs-how-uninformed-consent-has-delivered-a-false-promise/
And https://hatchardreport.com/weight-loss-drug-enables-you-to-swap-one-disease-for-dozens-of-others/
00:57:44 Cori12: Anything with added sugars, refined fats, food additives should carry a warning sign, and should be taxed
00:58:41 Rob Verkerk PhD: Replying to “Anything with added …”
Exactly Corinne!
00:59:23 Ann: Calroy health seems to have some decent? products and just released a product that apparently reduces major inflammatory markers like CRP, MMP-II, and TNF-α, potentially supporting conditions like heart disease, Alzheimer’s, diabetes, and autoimmune diseases by around 50% called Cartigenix, contains specific variety of celery seed extract and Boswellia extract which have the right hydrocarbon profile. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39875757/ and https://www.orthopaper.com/archives/2022/vol8issue2/PartD/8-2-35-472.pdf Sadly I have not learnt how to read these scientific papers.
00:59:43 Jacky: what is the book? Sorry I coughed and missed it! : )
01:00:01 Jacky: thanks Meleni 👍
01:00:23 iPadbobby: Author?
01:01:32 Melissa Smith: The Great Taking by David Rogers Webb
01:02:48 Rob Verkerk PhD: https://euroweeklynews.com/2025/04/28/planning-to-withdraw-cash-in-spain-you-could-now-face-a-e150000-fine/
01:03:33 Melissa Smith: Interview with David Rogers Webb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt0d70fqHok
01:03:41 Jacky: Reacted to “Interview: https://w…” with 👍
01:03:55 Melissa Smith: The Great Taking documentary: https://thegreattaking.com/the-documentary
01:04:29 Melissa Smith: You can download the book from the documentary website.
01:04:59 Jacky: thanks Melissa
01:06:51 Ann: Its scary with the money…Did anyone ever come across a bank / building society not tied to major banks? I withdrew 500.00 in cash the other day from a machine. Small gold 1g should be OK no? Apparently with some gold coins there is no vat and no GST. Ill have to look up which ones.
01:06:55 Rob Verkerk PhD: Brownstone review of Great taking
01:07:55 Wanda: and fibre for lowering cholesterol
01:12:23 iPadbobby: Ann Triodos Bank
01:12:45 Ann: thanks bobby
01:13:18 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “Its scary with the m…”
Yes, I believe you’re right on the VAT side. That was discussed last night in relation to silver too and ‘second hand’ silver.
01:14:59 Wanda: If you eat sushi you’ll likely have parasites
01:15:08 Jacky: pork eaters too?
01:15:53 Cori12: Jacky: no – pork isn’t a parasite problem… (any more – Trichinosis is gone)
01:16:16 Jacky: ah thanks Cori
01:17:19 Cori12: Parasites: in white blood cells – Eosinophils go up
01:17:58 Cori12: What about Ivermectin
01:19:59 Meleni Aldridge: Here’s the link: https://ourworldindata.org/data-insights/a-flu-strain-has-likely-gone-extinct-since-2020
01:20:47 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “What about Ivermecti…”
Yes, ivermectin is very effective against parasites and could be one of the chosen actives to remedy if needed.
01:21:36 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “If you eat sushi you…”
But it does depend on quality of the sushi and the health of the microbiome.
01:26:45 maurice mogard: Check John Campbells recent review of WHO. Excellent!
01:26:54 Cori12: Unfortunately our new health minister is in full line with the WHO !!! She just handed another 10 min to Tedros, beside of approximately. 300 Mio already paid
01:27:21 Cori12: Replying to “Unfortunately our ne…”
(Germany)
01:27:45 Melissa Smith: Replying to “Check John Campbells…”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yMvbuVmwkI
01:28:01 Meleni Aldridge: Reacted to “Check John Campbells…” with 🙏🏻
01:28:32 Melissa Smith: UKHSA release re West Nile virus – https://www.gov.uk/government/news/first-detection-of-west-nile-virus-in-uk-mosquitoes. Also search mosquitoe on the ANH website and you’ll lots more information about this particular topic.
01:30:27 Ann: Didn’t Florida already release GMO mossies?
01:30:35 Meleni Aldridge: Replying to “Didn’t Florida alrea…”
Yes!
01:30:47 Melissa Smith: Replying to “Didn’t Florida alrea…”
Plus multiple other countries!
01:31:06 Cori12: Replying to “Didn’t Florida alrea…”
I think Brasil aswell
01:33:22 iPadbobby: Spraying us with aluminium?
01:36:05 Cori12: John Campbell recently did also a talk about that sun“blocking“ going ons
01:36:08 Jacky: I had a response from the petition saying the UK Govt are not going to be using Solar Radiation Modification. but they will be carrying out Greenhouse Gas Removals (whatever that entails)
01:36:12 Rob Verkerk PhD: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-04-08/genetically-engineered-mosquitoes-may-soon-fly-in-california
01:36:56 Melissa Smith: Replying to “I had a response fro…”
Probably carbon capture schemes. There is an experiment to take CO2 out of sea water in the UK!
01:37:28 Jacky: This is part of the message:
01:37:33 Melissa Smith: Replying to “I had a response fro…”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/articles/c9qw11j1de9o
01:37:33 Jacky: SRM describes a set of technologies that could theoretically cool the Earth by reflecting some of the Sun’s energy back into space. However, the wider consequences of SRM are poorly understood, with significant uncertainty around the possible risks and impacts of deployment. As such, the government’s position is that it is not deploying SRM and has no plans in place to do so.SRM describes a set of technologies that could theoretically cool the Earth by reflecting some of the Sun’s energy back into space. However, the wider consequences of SRM are poorly understood, with significant uncertainty around the possible risks and impacts of deployment. As such, the government’s position is that it is not deploying SRM and has no plans in place to do so.
01:37:51 Melissa Smith: Reacted to “SRM describes a set …” with 👍
01:38:26 Cori12: Replying to “John Campbell recent…”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQe17fBe7c4
01:38:35 Meleni Aldridge: Reacted to “https://www.youtube….” with 🙏🏻
01:39:32 Jacky: This too, so they are doing some research..
01:39:37 Jacky: The government acknowledges that the Advanced Research and Invention Agency (ARIA), an independent research agency sponsored by the Department for Science, Innovation, and Technology, are funding some SRM research projects through their Exploring Climate Cooling Programme. This research aims to begin gathering critical missing scientific data to better understand potential Earth cooling approaches, conducting cautious, controlled research aimed at improving understanding of the risks and impacts associated with cooling technologies. The programme does not fund deployment. None of the approved ARIA projects involve the release of toxic materials to the environment. This research into cooling technologies in no way alleviates the urgent need for increased decarbonisation efforts.
01:41:47 Wanda: wide ranging and interesting discussion – as usual. Thanks again.
01:41:51 Wanda: https://www.kristinohlson.com/books/soil-will-save-us
01:42:57 Melissa Smith: Gregg Braden on CO2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj5YhqWv8Zg
01:43:41 Cori12: Replying to “Gregg Braden on CO2 …”
Great to hear from Gregg Braden again!!!
01:43:44 susan salmon: Thanks. This was so interesting as always
01:48:44 Wanda: They’re saying that the effects of these skinny drugs have multiple benefits over many body functions and everyone should be on them
01:48:44 Jacky: thanks so much, very interesting as ever
01:48:48 Ann: Thanks always fascinating X